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With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:13 pm
by bigboi
As amazing as Curry is, I honestly feel that he’s underrated. People like to establish this era as Bron’s era but it’s just as much as Curry’s era. With another ring, where would you rank Curry all time?

To me, he’s the best (or most dangerous) scorer of this generation. Yes, over Bron, KD and Bron. I could see the argument for him being top 5-7. Where would y’all rank him with another chip and continued performance

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:19 pm
by DatAsh
He's definitely a better scorer and offensive player than Lebron,but Lebron has a huge defensive edge, and is clearly better overall. I'm also currently wrestling with how to rank Curry. I've got Lebron at #1, and out of Curry reach, but guys in the 6-10 range, I'm honestly debating.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:21 pm
by wojoaderge
#10

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:27 pm
by FuShengTHEGreat
Wouldn't change a thing for me....i aleady have him as the GOAT PG

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:31 pm
by EmpireFalls
Amongst basketball aficionados like us? Maybe moves him up one spot or so into the top 8/9.

Amongst talk shows? Better than LeBron and top 3 ever. They’ll milk that 4-1 head to head in playoff series stat for ever.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:34 pm
by cpower
I would say easy 5-7. Arguably the best offensive player (with gravity) ever. Dominated a league for 8 years while the other superstars (Lebron, KD, Kawhi) had to partner up to beat him.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:34 pm
by bigboi
DatAsh wrote:He's definitely a better scorer and offensive player than Lebron,but Lebron has a huge defensive edge, and is clearly better overall. I'm also currently wrestling with how to rank Curry. I've got Lebron at #1, and out of Curry reach, but guys in the 6-10 range, I'm honestly debating.

Bron at #1? On what basis? What makes Bron better than Jordan? Bron potentially will have won only once against Curry in the playoffs his entire career. It’s not like we can act like Curry has an elite team this year either

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:34 pm
by RCM88x
Why do we do this?

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:37 pm
by OhayoKD
bigboi wrote:As amazing as Curry is, I honestly feel that he’s underrated. People like to establish this era as Bron’s era but it’s just as much as Curry’s era. With another ring, where would you rank Curry all time?

To me, he’s the best (or most dangerous) scorer of this generation. Yes, over Bron, KD and Bron. I could see the argument for him being top 5-7. Where would y’all rank him with another chip and continued performance

Eh, this is very reliant on Lebron's career being extended will beyond a normal one. Lebron actually won more championships during Steph's prime than Steph. If we actually look at an era instead of the moving target sign that is Lebron's career, The 2010's ended with Lebron winning more championships, making nearly twice as many finals, winning as many mvp's, making more all-nba's, winning more mvp votes. And that doesn't touch into the rather large emperical gap between the two in-terms of individual value in the regular season and the playoffs or milestons like becoming the #1 all-time scorer.

If Curry wins this championship he would have a head-start for being the force of the 2020's(and overall more team success if that's how you look at things) but this is a bit premature right now

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:37 pm
by jalengreen
cpower wrote:I would say easy 5-7. Arguably the best offensive player (with gravity) ever. Dominated a league for 8 years while the other superstars (Lebron, KD, Kawhi) had to partner up to beat him.


Lmao this is one way to put it... :lol:

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:38 pm
by AEnigma
It gives him a Magic-level prime résumé, albeit with fewer MVPs, fewer MVP shares, fewer Finals MVPs, fewer playoff appearances… but it is also a tougher era so there is some leeway, and Curry’s career is set to continue in a way Magic’s was not allowed to.

Again though this notion that this series against the 25th ranked defence secures him as a better scorer than Lebron… were any of you saying this after last year’s Memphis series, where Ja completely outplayed him offensively? Forget Lebron for a minute, prime playoff Kawhi has Lebron-esque volume on 63% efficiency. Steph might be the top offensive player of this generation, but the reason for that is not because anyone should see him as some legitimately unstoppable scorer.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:39 pm
by bigboi
OhayoKD wrote:
bigboi wrote:As amazing as Curry is, I honestly feel that he’s underrated. People like to establish this era as Bron’s era but it’s just as much as Curry’s era. With another ring, where would you rank Curry all time?

To me, he’s the best (or most dangerous) scorer of this generation. Yes, over Bron, KD and Bron. I could see the argument for him being top 5-7. Where would y’all rank him with another chip and continued performance

Eh, this is very reliant on Lebron's career being extended will beyond a normal one. Lebron actually won more championships during Steph's prime than Steph. If we actually look at an era instead of the moving target sign that is Lebron's career, The 2010's ended with Lebron winning more championships, making nearly twice as many finals, winning as many mvp's, making more all-nba's, winning more mvp votes. And that doesn't touch into the rather large emperical gap between the two in-terms of individual value in the regular season and the playoffs or milestons like becoming the #1 all-time scorer.

If Curry wins this championship he would have a head-start for being the force of the 2020's(and overall more team success if that's how you look at things) but this is a bit premature right now


This is flat out wrong lmao. Steph has won 4 rings in his prime. Bron has won 2 rings in Steph’s prime. Your argument falls completely apart with that.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:40 pm
by OhayoKD
jalengreen wrote:
cpower wrote:I would say easy 5-7. Arguably the best offensive player (with gravity) ever. Dominated a league for 8 years while the other superstars (Lebron, KD, Kawhi) had to partner up to beat him.


Lmao this is one way to put it... :lol:

I'm really just confused here. Who did Kawhi "team up with" to beat him? He was traded. The only player who "teamed up" for a win vs steph was Lebron and he teamed up with....kyrie

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:41 pm
by AEnigma
bigboi wrote:
DatAsh wrote:He's definitely a better scorer and offensive player than Lebron,but Lebron has a huge defensive edge, and is clearly better overall. I'm also currently wrestling with how to rank Curry. I've got Lebron at #1, and out of Curry reach, but guys in the 6-10 range, I'm honestly debating.

Bron at #1? On what basis?

Being the best player.

What makes Bron better than Jordan?

Playing the sport better.

Bron potentially will have won only once against Curry in the playoffs his entire career. It’s not like we can act like Curry has an elite team this year either

We can say Curry had the better team than Lebron every year, and this is pretty much the same exact team as last year minus Otto Porter.

But I will put it another way: the worse you see Lebron, the less impressive it is that Curry had to team up with Durant to beat him in his prime. Draymond understands that; weird how few Warriors fans do. Guess it speaks to how after four rings, nothing can remove the sting of 2016. :lol:

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:41 pm
by bigboi
AEnigma wrote:It gives him a Magic-level prime résumé, albeit with fewer MVPs, fewer MVP shares, fewer Finals MVPs, fewer playoff appearances… but it is also a tougher era so there is some leeway, and Curry’s career is set to continue in a way Magic’s was not allowed to.

Again though this notion that this series against the 25th ranked defence secures him as a better scorer than Lebron… were any of you saying this after last year’s Memphis series, where Ja completely outplayed him offensively? Forget Lebron for a minute, prime playoff Kawhi has Lebron-esque volume on 63% efficiency. Steph might be the top offensive player of this generation, but the reason for that is not because anyone should see him as some legitimately unstoppable scorer.


I already addressed your cherry picked stats. Curry is clearly a better scorer than Lebron. You used per 75 which isn’t a widely used stat in any capacity then tried to cherry pick Bron’s years in order to make his stats look better which is completely silly.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:44 pm
by bigboi
AEnigma wrote:
bigboi wrote:
DatAsh wrote:He's definitely a better scorer and offensive player than Lebron,but Lebron has a huge defensive edge, and is clearly better overall. I'm also currently wrestling with how to rank Curry. I've got Lebron at #1, and out of Curry reach, but guys in the 6-10 range, I'm honestly debating.

Bron at #1? On what basis?

Being the best player.

What makes Bron better than Jordan?

Playing the sport better.

Bron potentially will have won only once against Curry in the playoffs his entire career. It’s not like we can act like Curry has an elite team this year either

We can say Curry had the better team than Lebron every year, and this is pretty much the same exact team as last year minus Otto Porter.


But Lebron doesn’t play the sport better :roll: . He neither wins as much nor has as many Finals MVPs nor has as many MVPs. He’s flat out just not better lmao. And no, Curry doesn’t have a better team this year. Warriors aren’t even a play in team without Curry. At best, GSW and Lakers are pretty much equal

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:45 pm
by AEnigma
bigboi wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
bigboi wrote:As amazing as Curry is, I honestly feel that he’s underrated. People like to establish this era as Bron’s era but it’s just as much as Curry’s era. With another ring, where would you rank Curry all time?

To me, he’s the best (or most dangerous) scorer of this generation. Yes, over Bron, KD and Bron. I could see the argument for him being top 5-7. Where would y’all rank him with another chip and continued performance

Eh, this is very reliant on Lebron's career being extended will beyond a normal one. Lebron actually won more championships during Steph's prime than Steph. If we actually look at an era instead of the moving target sign that is Lebron's career, The 2010's ended with Lebron winning more championships, making nearly twice as many finals, winning as many mvp's, making more all-nba's, winning more mvp votes. And that doesn't touch into the rather large emperical gap between the two in-terms of individual value in the regular season and the playoffs or milestons like becoming the #1 all-time scorer.

If Curry wins this championship he would have a head-start for being the force of the 2020's(and overall more team success if that's how you look at things) but this is a bit premature right now


This is flat out wrong lmao. Steph has won 4 rings in his prime. Bron has won 2 rings in Steph’s prime. Your argument falls completely apart with that.

2022 is prime Lebron and 2013 is not prime Curry, fascinating.

Now, excluding 2012 is fair, so it is three rings apiece. Also three Finals MVPs apiece, but that is the penalty of needing to add Durant to your 73-win core to win two of those titles.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:47 pm
by OhayoKD
bigboi wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
bigboi wrote:As amazing as Curry is, I honestly feel that he’s underrated. People like to establish this era as Bron’s era but it’s just as much as Curry’s era. With another ring, where would you rank Curry all time?

To me, he’s the best (or most dangerous) scorer of this generation. Yes, over Bron, KD and Bron. I could see the argument for him being top 5-7. Where would y’all rank him with another chip and continued performance

Eh, this is very reliant on Lebron's career being extended will beyond a normal one. Lebron actually won more championships during Steph's prime than Steph. If we actually look at an era instead of the moving target sign that is Lebron's career, The 2010's ended with Lebron winning more championships, making nearly twice as many finals, winning as many mvp's, making more all-nba's, winning more mvp votes. And that doesn't touch into the rather large emperical gap between the two in-terms of individual value in the regular season and the playoffs or milestons like becoming the #1 all-time scorer.

If Curry wins this championship he would have a head-start for being the force of the 2020's(and overall more team success if that's how you look at things) but this is a bit premature right now


This is flat out wrong lmao. Steph has won 4 rings in his prime. Bron has won 2 rings in Steph’s prime. Your argument falls completely apart with that.

Unless we count 2015-2020 as post-prime for Lebron, 2012 and 2013 certainly count as Steph's...

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:47 pm
by AEnigma
bigboi wrote:
AEnigma wrote:It gives him a Magic-level prime résumé, albeit with fewer MVPs, fewer MVP shares, fewer Finals MVPs, fewer playoff appearances… but it is also a tougher era so there is some leeway, and Curry’s career is set to continue in a way Magic’s was not allowed to.

Again though this notion that this series against the 25th ranked defence secures him as a better scorer than Lebron… were any of you saying this after last year’s Memphis series, where Ja completely outplayed him offensively? Forget Lebron for a minute, prime playoff Kawhi has Lebron-esque volume on 63% efficiency. Steph might be the top offensive player of this generation, but the reason for that is not because anyone should see him as some legitimately unstoppable scorer.

I already addressed your cherry picked stats. Curry is clearly a better scorer than Lebron. You used per 75 which isn’t a widely used stat in any capacity

What

then tried to cherry pick Bron’s years in order to make his stats look better which is completely silly.

… By choosing Curry’s prime?

Go s***post in the Warriors forum lol.

Re: With another ring, where does Curry rank?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:49 pm
by bigboi
AEnigma wrote:
bigboi wrote:
AEnigma wrote:It gives him a Magic-level prime résumé, albeit with fewer MVPs, fewer MVP shares, fewer Finals MVPs, fewer playoff appearances… but it is also a tougher era so there is some leeway, and Curry’s career is set to continue in a way Magic’s was not allowed to.

Again though this notion that this series against the 25th ranked defence secures him as a better scorer than Lebron… were any of you saying this after last year’s Memphis series, where Ja completely outplayed him offensively? Forget Lebron for a minute, prime playoff Kawhi has Lebron-esque volume on 63% efficiency. Steph might be the top offensive player of this generation, but the reason for that is not because anyone should see him as some legitimately unstoppable scorer.

I already addressed your cherry picked stats. Curry is clearly a better scorer than Lebron. You used per 75 which isn’t a widely used stat in any capacity

What

then tried to cherry pick Bron’s years in order to make his stats look better which is completely silly.

… By choosing Curry’s prime?

Go s***post in the Warriors forum lol.


You’re a moron. I’m not even a Warriors fan. YOU BASED LEBRON’S PLAYOFF STATS ON 2013-23. THOSE ARE CHERRY-PICKED STATS WHICH MAKE THEM GARBAGE. Lebron’s real stats are his real stats. Simple as that and they’re worse than Curry’s scoring stats.