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How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:27 pm
by SHAQ32
(For ts, consider the beginning of AD's prime as 2015)
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:06 pm
by TheGOATRises007
I'd pick 94 and 95 Pippen over 21 and 22 Davis.
But that's it.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:08 pm
by 70sFan
None.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:17 pm
by HeartBreakKid
Scottie Pippen wasn't that level of player.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:28 pm
by Ron Swanson
Zero
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:31 pm
by Colbinii
AD was a better player. Offensively is it close and defensively it is close but while both are relatively close they are clearly advantageous for AD.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:41 pm
by SHAQ32
TheGOATRises007 wrote:I'd pick 94 and 95 Pippen over 21 and 22 Davis.
But that's it.
What about 1992?
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:04 pm
by Djoker
Zero. AD whenever healthy from 2015-present is comfortably better than Pippen ever was.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:08 pm
by Cavsfansince84
AD when locked in is better but I think its fair to question his mental toughness. Pippen even though he had his issues usually had a serious intensity that he brought on defense.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:17 pm
by HeartBreakKid
Cavsfansince84 wrote:AD when locked in is better but I think its fair to question his mental toughness. Pippen even though he had his issues usually had a serious intensity that he brought on defense.
Plenty of questions about Pippen's mental toughness.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:23 pm
by eminence
ADs best is better. But if I look at some sort of average from 2015 to now, I'd be taking at least a couple Pippen seasons. AD has some of the biggest ups and downs in play of any star I can remember, and that's without even accounting for his injury issues.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:29 pm
by Cavsfansince84
HeartBreakKid wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:AD when locked in is better but I think its fair to question his mental toughness. Pippen even though he had his issues usually had a serious intensity that he brought on defense.
Plenty of questions about Pippen's mental toughness.
I said above that Pippen has his issues but you could count on him to bring the defense and always good in transition.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:32 pm
by HeartBreakKid
Cavsfansince84 wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:AD when locked in is better but I think its fair to question his mental toughness. Pippen even though he had his issues usually had a serious intensity that he brought on defense.
Plenty of questions about Pippen's mental toughness.
I said above that Pippen has his issues but you could count on him to bring the defense and always good in transition.
Davis is consistent offensively. He's just being over analyzed because he is a better player and has more expectations as well as he is literally still playing today.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:34 pm
by Cavsfansince84
HeartBreakKid wrote:
Davis is consistent offensively. He's just being over analyzed because he is a better player and has more expectations as well as he is literally still playing today.
I think its fair to question his consistency on both ends. Less in some seasons than others as well as the injuries.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 12:42 am
by GSP
HeartBreakKid wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:
Plenty of questions about Pippen's mental toughness.
I said above that Pippen has his issues but you could count on him to bring the defense and always good in transition.
Davis is consistent offensively. He's just being over analyzed because he is a better player and has more expectations as well as he is literally still playing today.
Ad is consistent defensively...........how on earth is he consistent offensively?
These stats were up to middle of Warriors series but they held through rest of way.
Just look at him offensively Vs Denver in game 1 and 3 compared to 2 and 4...............34Ppg on 61% shooting Vs 20 Ppg on 30% shooting.....................that is the definition of inconsistent offense. His ceiling on offense is in another stratosphere to Scottie but hes inconsistent as hell
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 am
by HeartBreakKid
GSP wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:
I said above that Pippen has his issues but you could count on him to bring the defense and always good in transition.
Davis is consistent offensively. He's just being over analyzed because he is a better player and has more expectations as well as he is
literally still playing today.
Ad is consistent defensively...........how on earth is he consistent offensively?
His average is 22 points so obviously his off games are 13 PPG. That's how averages work. Why not cite his first 3 playoff runs or his healthy regular season runs?
I know what to expect from Davis on offense pretty regularly. He is a high conversion pick and pop player and a high conversion pick and roll player. He makes safe comfortable passes and doesn't turn the ball over much. He's better at being set up than creating for himself.
How would he be so efficient if he wasn't consistent? That doesn't make sense.
Davis is a better defensive player than offensive, but think he is not able to play defense to the best of his ability with any consistency (he looks like the best defender in the league by a lot, but I don't know how that holds up during the RS?). His offense is whether he makes shots or not, that isn't much different from many other volume scorers.
He isn't a creator, there isn't much else to judge him on. Looking at selective sample sizes is dumb, I don't think I have to explain why, you could find literally any volume scorer who had bad series and bad games.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 am
by tsherkin
I can't imagine a version of Scottie I'd want over Anthony Davis.
You can make an argument based on health/availability concerns, but when he's on the court, Davis is much better than Pippen ever was. He had his issues in the Denver series, but I mean, it's not like Pippen didn't have his own problems.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 12:55 am
by HeartBreakKid
Scottie Pippen has worse stats and is obviously a worse player but is some how more consistent than Anthony Davis. Okay...that makes no sense.
I know it's easy to get caught up in narratives but consistency is literally what makes you good. That's why we look at averages...
I mean that is just flat out ESPN stuff.
Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:05 am
by VanWest82
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Re: How many seasons does Scottie Pippen have over Prime Anthony Davis?
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:52 am
by migya
Pippen deferred scoring and was a great playmaker and defender. He didn't disappear quite like AD either. 92, 94 and 96 might be better than all but one or two seasons for AD. Time missed is a factor as well.