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Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 1:54 am
by Narigo
Who is better prime wise

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:06 am
by No-more-rings
I guess it depends how much we weigh prime length and durability. Jimmy is better than those guys in a vacuum, but he doesn’t really have the body of work overall.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:11 am
by migya
Drexler at his best was not far behind Jordan.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:42 am
by Warspite
Totally unfair to Butler to compare him to Gervin and Clyde. If you saw Gervin or Clyde play today you would think they are the best players in the league.

Much better to compare Jimmy to Moncrief/Marquis Johnson/Mullin/Aquirre.

Lets not let Butlers post season run get so overinflated. There are still +50 wing players that are as great as Jimmy Butler.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:01 am
by One_and_Done
Warspite wrote:Totally unfair to Butler to compare him to Gervin and Clyde. If you saw Gervin or Clyde play today you would think they are the best players in the league.

Much better to compare Jimmy to Moncrief/Marquis Johnson/Mullin/Aquirre.

Lets not let Butlers post season run get so overinflated. There are still +50 wing players that are as great as Jimmy Butler.


I've seen Gervin play, and he'd be pretty far from the best player in today's league.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:20 am
by Colbinii
Warspite wrote:Totally unfair to Butler to compare him to Gervin and Clyde. If you saw Gervin or Clyde play today you would think they are the best players in the league.

Much better to compare Jimmy to Moncrief/Marquis Johnson/Mullin/Aquirre.

Lets not let Butlers post season run get so overinflated. There are still +50 wing players that are as great as Jimmy Butler.


I can't see either Gervin or Clyde being the best player in the league.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:23 am
by Warspite
One_and_Done wrote:
Warspite wrote:Totally unfair to Butler to compare him to Gervin and Clyde. If you saw Gervin or Clyde play today you would think they are the best players in the league.

Much better to compare Jimmy to Moncrief/Marquis Johnson/Mullin/Aquirre.

Lets not let Butlers post season run get so overinflated. There are still +50 wing players that are as great as Jimmy Butler.


I've seen Gervin play, and he'd be pretty far from the best player in today's league.


That depends: You never saw him play vs todays players. You never saw Gervin play in a game in which he is the tallest player on the court. Gervin might lead the league in blocks and certainly would in scoring. Having the chance to play an extra 5 to 10 minutes a game vs bench players and playing 75 games vs small ball teams with no weak side help you very well might change your opinion. Give him PEDs, AAU, trainers and 3pt practice since he was a child and he certainly would tower over a former self that grew up 50 years ago.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 9:36 am
by 70sFan
Gervin has clearly the best prime to me and he's remarkable in the playoffs at his peak. For one season, I might consider Butler over him though, due to defensive advantage.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 9:36 am
by 70sFan
migya wrote:Drexler at his best was not far behind Jordan.

No, he wasn't close to Jordan. That was nothing else than a marketing.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 9:37 am
by 70sFan
Warspite wrote:Totally unfair to Butler to compare him to Gervin and Clyde. If you saw Gervin or Clyde play today you would think they are the best players in the league.

Much better to compare Jimmy to Moncrief/Marquis Johnson/Mullin/Aquirre.

Lets not let Butlers post season run get so overinflated. There are still +50 wing players that are as great as Jimmy Butler.

Gervin wouldn't be the best player in the league, Drexler mention is just laughable.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 10:20 am
by migya
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:Drexler at his best was not far behind Jordan.

No, he wasn't close to Jordan. That was nothing else than a marketing.


Drexler was among the best scorers and all-around players at his best. Not many compared to him.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 10:28 am
by 70sFan
migya wrote:
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:Drexler at his best was not far behind Jordan.

No, he wasn't close to Jordan. That was nothing else than a marketing.


Drexler was among the best scorers and all-around players at his best. Not many compared to him.

Drexler was never in conversation for the best scorers in the league. He finished 4th in ppg in his best season (1992), but he was 2nd worst in efficiency among the top 8 scorers. On top of that, Drexler usually regressed in the playoffs as well. Jordan was much better scorer than Drexler, but there were also Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, Mullin... He was a clear tier behind them.

He was quite complete player of course, but his rivarly with Jordan was only a marketing move that didn't work out that well once they faced each other. I don't want to do this, because I really like Drexler's game, but it's another time when you overrate 1990s player to death.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 11:08 am
by migya
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:
70sFan wrote:No, he wasn't close to Jordan. That was nothing else than a marketing.


Drexler was among the best scorers and all-around players at his best. Not many compared to him.

Drexler was never in conversation for the best scorers in the league. He finished 4th in ppg in his best season (1992), but he was 2nd worst in efficiency among the top 8 scorers. On top of that, Drexler usually regressed in the playoffs as well. Jordan was much better scorer than Drexler, but there were also Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, Mullin... He was a clear tier behind them.

He was quite complete player of course, but his rivarly with Jordan was only a marketing move that didn't work out that well once they faced each other. I don't want to do this, because I really like Drexler's game, but it's another time when you overrate 1990s player to death.


You're like a hag. Whinge to someone else's post.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 11:26 am
by 70sFan
migya wrote:
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:
Drexler was among the best scorers and all-around players at his best. Not many compared to him.

Drexler was never in conversation for the best scorers in the league. He finished 4th in ppg in his best season (1992), but he was 2nd worst in efficiency among the top 8 scorers. On top of that, Drexler usually regressed in the playoffs as well. Jordan was much better scorer than Drexler, but there were also Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, Mullin... He was a clear tier behind them.

He was quite complete player of course, but his rivarly with Jordan was only a marketing move that didn't work out that well once they faced each other. I don't want to do this, because I really like Drexler's game, but it's another time when you overrate 1990s player to death.


You're like a hag. Whinge to someone else's post.

Was this really necessary? Can we back to basketball please?

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 11:44 am
by henshao
Drexler was very probably the #2 shooting guard in the league during the Jordan years, how close he actually was to Jordan is debatable

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 11:58 am
by migya
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:
70sFan wrote:Drexler was never in conversation for the best scorers in the league. He finished 4th in ppg in his best season (1992), but he was 2nd worst in efficiency among the top 8 scorers. On top of that, Drexler usually regressed in the playoffs as well. Jordan was much better scorer than Drexler, but there were also Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson, Mullin... He was a clear tier behind them.

He was quite complete player of course, but his rivarly with Jordan was only a marketing move that didn't work out that well once they faced each other. I don't want to do this, because I really like Drexler's game, but it's another time when you overrate 1990s player to death.


You're like a hag. Whinge to someone else's post.

Was this really necessary? Can we back to basketball please?



I should have followed what I learned a while back that you are not worthy for me to have a conversation with.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 12:21 pm
by 70sFan
migya wrote:
70sFan wrote:
migya wrote:
You're like a hag. Whinge to someone else's post.

Was this really necessary? Can we back to basketball please?



I should have followed what I learned a while back that you are not worthy for me to have a conversation with.

I find it a shame to be honest. You decided I am not worthy for you to have conversation with, because I disagree with your evaluation of Drexler scoring abilities? I thought we're talking about basketball here in general, is this not a basketball related discussion?

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 12:22 pm
by AEnigma
If Jimmy Butler had the wisdom to play in the 1990s, then guys like migya would probably be arguing him over Kobe and Durant.

Then again, at least he is not trying to argue Drexler would somehow be the tallest player on the court and potentially lead the league in blocks, so yay for small miracles.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 12:36 pm
by migya
AEnigma wrote:If Jimmy Butler had the wisdom to play in the 1990s, then guys like migya would probably be arguing him over Kobe and Durant.

Then again, at least he is not trying to argue Drexler would somehow be the tallest player on the court and potentially lead the league in blocks, so yay for small miracles.



If young ones like you had any wisdom you wouldn't be so ignorant and blind to players not of the current era.

Re: Jimmy Butler vs Clyde Drexler vs George Gervin

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 12:44 pm
by AEnigma
Always a laugh when people incapable of moving past their nostalgia assume anyone who views the sport more objectively must be younger.

Drexler’s and Gervin’s flaws were visible in real time, provided you had the eye for it. You evidently did not, nor have you bothered to develop one in the thirty years since (assuming you are even being honest there).