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Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:45 pm
by FuShengTHEGreat
Amongst Centers in NBA history which Centers in a given year would you rank above Jokic's '23 individual playoff performance from start to finish?

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:56 pm
by Cavsfansince84
Probably 71/80 Kareem, 00 Shaq, 67 Wilt. I think that's about it. Maybe a Mikan run or two when you adjust for era.

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:00 pm
by Matt15
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Probably 71/80 Kareem, 00 Shaq, 67 Wilt. I think that's about it. Maybe a Mikan run or two when you adjust for era.


What about 94/95 Hakeem?

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:01 pm
by Cavsfansince84
Matt15 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Probably 71/80 Kareem, 00 Shaq, 67 Wilt. I think that's about it. Maybe a Mikan run or two when you adjust for era.


What about 94/95 Hakeem?


Ya him too.

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:03 pm
by 70sFan
Arguable ones:

Some Mikan runs
1962, 1963, 1965, 1966 Russell (HM to 1969 Russell)
1964, 1967 Wilt
1974, 1977, 1980 Kareem
1994, 1995 Hakeem
2000, 2001 Shaq
2003 Duncan

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:11 pm
by AEnigma
As a run?

- Russell’s 1964 and 1969, with heavy consideration for 1968 as well; possibly others.

- Hakeem’s 1994 and 1995; also 1986 if we include losing efforts

- Duncan’s 2003 (if he qualifies), and I think he has arguments in 2005 and 2007 as well

- probably Kareem’s 1971 and possibly 1980

- probably Walton’s 1977

- Shaq’s 2001 and possibly 2000

1967 Wilt possible and reasonable, but I have always been less impressed by that title run than most.

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:25 pm
by One_and_Done
It's not a short list. If Duncan counts his runs are all ahead except 2014 when he was part of an ensemble cast. Shaq's 3 Laker runs too. Both Hakeem's titles. Kareem in 71 and 80 certainly, though by 82 maybe not.

Historically Moses in 83, but Jokic is the better player so I wouldn't pick that. Same with Walton in 77 I guess. If Davis plays like he did in 20 then I'd likely take him over Jokic, even though that seems to be something of an aberation.

Tough to evaluate Wilt or Russell.

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:16 pm
by MyUniBroDavis
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:Amongst Centers in NBA history which Centers in a given year would you rank above Jokic's '23 individual playoff performance from start to finish?


If we are saying in time,

Wilt/Russell/Shaq/Kareem/Hakeem/TD probably all have one or two

In terms of who I think was better

Shaq and Hakeem fs

Kareem and Duncan too I think (I just don’t know much about Kareem, not that he isn’t as good as the top 2 are)

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:47 am
by FuShengTHEGreat
One_and_Done wrote:It's not a short list. If Duncan counts his runs are all ahead except 2014 when he was part of an ensemble cast. Shaq's 3 Laker runs too. Both Hakeem's titles. Kareem in 71 and 80 certainly, though by 82 maybe not.

Historically Moses in 83, but Jokic is the better player so I wouldn't pick that. Same with Walton in 77 I guess. If Davis plays like he did in 20 then I'd likely take him over Jokic, even though that seems to be something of an aberation.

Tough to evaluate Wilt or Russell.


Duncan's Center years chiefly after the 3rd title weren't the best versions of him. His best performances were at PF

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:50 am
by One_and_Done
I agree Duncan's peak was in 2002 and 2003, but his prime extended from 1998 to 2007 and any version of Duncan during that period is superior to Jokic. The game has changed, so Jokic posts better volume stats, but in a modern environment Duncan's offensive stats would be better and Defensively he's one of the GOATs in that end.

Re: Which Centers' individual title runs historically would you rank over 23 Jokic?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:18 am
by Jaqua92
Shaq.

No one else.