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Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:40 pm
by Matt15
What’s the highest reasonable ranking for Kevin Durant all time?

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:04 pm
by Cavsfansince84
I don't think I'd take too seriously any ranking higher than 16 or 15. I can't imagine what criteria would be used outside of saying he was the best player in the world in 14 and 17-18(which I wouldn't agree with) and being really high on his 21-23 years despite all the missed games.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:05 pm
by No-more-rings
Top 15 I guess, but even that I have trouble with an argument for. I mean compare him to say Jerry West, who’s roughly in the 13-17 range for a lot of people. Does KD have a good case on either end of the floor in that comparison?

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:41 pm
by Colbinii
No-more-rings wrote:Top 15 I guess, but even that I have trouble with an argument for. I mean compare him to say Jerry West, who’s roughly in the 13-17 range for a lot of people. Does KD have a good case on either end of the floor in that comparison?


Yeah--he does if you take into account era

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:49 pm
by No-more-rings
Colbinii wrote:
No-more-rings wrote:Top 15 I guess, but even that I have trouble with an argument for. I mean compare him to say Jerry West, who’s roughly in the 13-17 range for a lot of people. Does KD have a good case on either end of the floor in that comparison?


Yeah--he does if you take into account era

Please explain.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:56 pm
by Colbinii
No-more-rings wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
No-more-rings wrote:Top 15 I guess, but even that I have trouble with an argument for. I mean compare him to say Jerry West, who’s roughly in the 13-17 range for a lot of people. Does KD have a good case on either end of the floor in that comparison?


Yeah--he does if you take into account era

Please explain.


It's fairly common to prefer the current era to the 1960s.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:01 pm
by No-more-rings
Colbinii wrote:
No-more-rings wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Yeah--he does if you take into account era

Please explain.


It's fairly common to prefer the current era to the 1960s.

I didn’t ask which era you prefer, I asked why “taking era into account” makes for a strong pro-KD case.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:10 pm
by Colbinii
No-more-rings wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
No-more-rings wrote:Please explain.


It's fairly common to prefer the current era to the 1960s.

I didn’t ask which era you prefer, I asked why “taking era into account” makes for a strong pro-KD case.


Because some people think the 2010s and 2020s are a much stronger era than the 1960s

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:20 pm
by One_and_Done
Somewhere in the 9-15 range I guess

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:42 pm
by OhayoKD
No-more-rings wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
No-more-rings wrote:Please explain.


It's fairly common to prefer the current era to the 1960s.

I didn’t ask which era you prefer, I asked why “taking era into account” makes for a strong pro-KD case.

league better -> kd better presumably

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:09 am
by rk2023
Low ends of top 15 imo

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:15 am
by migya
Can't see him ahead of Robinson, Barkley, Moses and Karl Malone, often placed outside top 15-20.CP did much with less. Hasn't played that many games either

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:39 am
by One_and_Done
KD is likely going to finish hos career with 30k plus points. You don't do that without some longevity.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:30 am
by mdonnelly1989
15 at the highest, like 23 at the lowest. But I expect over the top 2-3 seasons with more longivity he will be a lock top 20 player of all time.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:32 am
by Colbinii
migya wrote:Can't see him ahead of Robinson, Barkley, Moses and Karl Malone, often placed outside top 15-20.CP did much with less. Hasn't played that many games either


David Robinson: 987 RS Games, 123 PS Games
Kevin Durant: 986 RS Games, 166 PS Games

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:01 am
by Cavsfansince84
One_and_Done wrote:KD is likely going to finish hos career with 30k plus points. You don't do that without some longevity.


True though in the case of KD most of his missed games have come when he was really in his prime. His first 7 years up to the age of 25 he missed hardly any games. Since then though(just as he really got going with his mvp season) he's only played in 68% of his team's rs games. So his longevity is to some degree a byproduct of coming in at such a young age.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:49 am
by One_and_Done
Some of the games missed is strategic rest or other issues that kept him out as well, not inability to play. Ignoring trade issues and rest, he's played in 2 COVID shortened seasons and a lockout season.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:57 am
by Dr Positivity
Probably like 13th

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:11 am
by migya
Colbinii wrote:
migya wrote:Can't see him ahead of Robinson, Barkley, Moses and Karl Malone, often placed outside top 15-20.CP did much with less. Hasn't played that many games either


David Robinson: 987 RS Games, 123 PS Games
Kevin Durant: 986 RS Games, 166 PS Games



Robinson was at much higher level in a much harder to score era. He is a top 10 alltime defender and a great scorer, per 100pos when he was first option he's a little below Durant. There is no real comparison.

Re: Highest reasonable all-time ranking for Kevin Durant?

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:27 pm
by Narigo
19-20