Donovan Mitchell or Jamal Murray

mkot · Post #1 » by **mkot** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:17 pm

Just re-watched some highlights of the epic duel in the bubble and wondering now with Murray coming back healthy this year, who turned out to be a better player individually or as a team player?

Who you got?

Joao Saraiva · Post #2 » by **Joao Saraiva** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:14 pm

I don't know how their careers are going to unfold, but peak wise I'm taking Murray. His decision making is a lot better. Mitchell is still a very good puncher, but he's a chucker. When shots ain't falling Murray can be a big plus. Not so much with Mitchell.

rk2023 · Post #3 » by **rk2023** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:34 pm

Mitchell, I think being able to play with someone as talented as Jokic does a lot to help Murray. I will say , Murray did show he can hold his own and ramp up when needed- but If I’m not mistaken.. Mitchell is more impactful as a whole.

RoyceDa59 · Post #4 » by **RoyceDa59** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:04 am

Murray

iggymcfrack · Post #5 » by **iggymcfrack** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:48 am

LOL, it was only a few months ago I was in the minority arguing Murray was a good enough #2 to win a championship with and now it’s a question whether he’s better than the 2nd best shooting guard in the league.

RCM88x · Post #6 » by **RCM88x** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:54 pm

I still think its Mitchell, Murray has the gift of playing with the greatest player of his generation and really hasn't ever proved himself over the course of a whole season. He certainly has a chance to do that this year.

But to me if we swapped these guys I'd have a hard time thinking Murray would do better and I do think that Mitchell would be similarly successful in Denver.

If you want to break it down differently. To me, Mitchell is just such a better floor raiser it almost makes the rest irrelevant. While Murray may be superior as a ceiling raiser it's harder to compare directly when the guys have been in very different situations. Though I do think Mitchell deserves some credit for raising a roughly 2.5 SRS team into a 5.5 SRS team while replacing Lauri. His style of play deserves criticism at times for sure, but I don't think it's every negatively effected his team results, at least not any more than Murray's flaws have.

Peregrine01 · Post #7 » by **Peregrine01** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am

In a vacuum Mitchell is easily better. The questions becomes more tricky if you ask whether Denver would be better. I think Jokic and Murray have developed a chemistry that can’t be quickly replaced but give Mitchell enough reps and I think they’d be even better.

TheLand13 · Post #8 » by **TheLand13** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:57 am

I can’t really see an argument for Murray being better, despite him clearly having a better postseason run this year. At the very least, as someone already mentioned, Mitchell is the better floor raiser and I personally think he’s better on both ends of the floor. Murray is the perfect second option to Jokic, I don’t think we’ve seen Mitchell in a situation where he has the perfect system surrounding him. Whether that changes this season with the shooting Cleveland has added and internal development from Garland/Mobley/Allen/Okoro remains to be seen.