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For example Jokic career RS/PS ortg is 117.75

This is how I counted Jokic league avg ortg

Total league poss/pts

2016 RS
2017 RS
2018 RS
2019 RS and PO
2020 RS and PO
2021 RS and PO
2022 RS and PO
2023 RS and PO

If player missed RS or PO or both, I dont count this season into his career lg avg

So now I have only 9 players, later will add way more

Careers RS+PI+PO rOrtg

1. Jokic +6.68
2. Curry +6.29
3. Kawhi +5.37
4. Harden +5.19
5. Paul +5.07
6. Durant +4.69
7. Lebron +4.39
8. Lillard +4.25
9. Doncic +3.89

Added Kobe, Embiid, Giannis, Nash, Wade

1. Nash +8.09
2. Jokic +6.68
3. Curry +6.29
4. Kawhi +5.37
5. Harden +5.19
6. Paul +5.07
7. Durant +4.69
8. Lebron +4.39
9. Kobe +4.28
10. Lillard +4.25
11. Embiid +4.25
12. Doncic +3.89
13. Wade +2.33
14. Giannis +2.16

Nash is in a league of his own. The biggest surprise is the gap between Jokic and Doncic. Lillard on the same tier with Kobe and Lebron is also very impressive. I expected way more from Paul too. Giannis can't elevate good team offense.

Thanks for showing the work. Can you clarify a two or three details so I know what I'm looking at:

1) Is this their individual rORTG (as in: the ORtg figure you'd get on a player's bbref page, measured against league avg)? Or is it their team's average rORTG when he's on the court?

2) When combining rs and playoffs (+/- a play-in game or two), are the figures weighted for games played in each? For instance, suppose a player averages a +6 in 80 rs games and +3 in 20 playoff games.......if his playoff avg is given equal footing as rs, he'd average +4.5 for the year (e.g. (6 + 3)/2).
However, if weighted for number of games it comes to +5.4 (e.g. ([6 * 80] + [3 * 20])/100)).

3) Also, can you clarify what you meant by "Total league poss/pts"?

trex_8063 wrote:Thanks for showing the work. Can you clarify a two or three details so I know what I'm looking at:

1) Is this their individual rORTG (as in: the ORtg figure you'd get on a player's bbref page, measured against league avg)? Or is it their team's average rORTG when he's on the court?

2) When combining rs and playoffs (+/- a play-in game or two), are the figures weighted for games played in each? For instance, suppose a player averages a +6 in 80 rs games and +3 in 20 playoff games.......if his playoff avg is given equal footing as rs, he'd average +4.5 for the year (e.g. (6 + 3)/2).
However, if weighted for number of games it comes to +5.4 (e.g. ([6 * 80] + [3 * 20])/100)).

3) Also, can you clarify what you meant by "Total league poss/pts"?

1) on the court from PBPstats.com
2/3) I counted all career RS+PI+PO team poss and team pts with player on the floor to get career ortg.

To get Player career league avg ortg I counted league all RS+PI+PO possessions and points. Only skipped seasons where player didn’t play in RS duo to injuries or missed PO duo to injuries or team record.

Player career ortg - career lg ortg = career rOrtg

I did a similar thing here, except (1) by season as opposed to career; (2) did it by on-court ORTG+ instead of on-court rORTG (i.e. percent above league average instead of raw number above league average); and (3) and did not include playoff numbers in my analysis:

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2302989

I will add Dirk, O’Neal, Garnett, Duncan, Kidd, Embiid, Westbrook later