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Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
by 1993Playoffs
Clearly different supporting cast situations but Who was the better anchor offensively throughout their prime?

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:09 pm
by SHAQ32
Um, Moses.

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:32 am
by MiamiBulls
Moses.

Hakeem was essentially a variant of Carmelo Anthony on Offense. Who never had a TS+ above 104 outside of '93 & '94 in his prime years.

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:39 am
by One_and_Done
Hakeem. Especially in today's NBA.

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:50 am
by iggymcfrack
MiamiBulls wrote:Moses.

Hakeem was essentially a variant of Carmelo Anthony on Offense. Who never had a TS+ above 104 outside of '93 & '94 in his prime years.


Hakeem was more efficient than Moses in the postseason. Also scored on higher volume and was a MUCH better (if still not great) passer.

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 6:48 am
by 70sFan
I think they are comparable as the clear leading anchors without secondary stars, but Moses fits way better with offensive talent.

Yeah, it's Moses rather clearly to me.

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 6:49 am
by 70sFan
One_and_Done wrote:Hakeem. Especially in today's NBA.

What makes Hakeem more suited to modern NBA than Moses?

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 6:55 am
by 70sFan
iggymcfrack wrote:
MiamiBulls wrote:Moses.

Hakeem was essentially a variant of Carmelo Anthony on Offense. Who never had a TS+ above 104 outside of '93 & '94 in his prime years.


Hakeem was more efficient than Moses in the postseason. Also scored on higher volume and was a MUCH better (if still not great) passer.

RS:

1979-83 Moses: 25.0 adj pp75 on +4.7 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 24.5 adj pp75 on +2.3 rTS%

PS:

1979-83 Moses: 24.8 adj pp75 on +2.9 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 27.5 adj pp75 on +3.1 rTS%

Where does this "much more efficienct" come from?

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:08 am
by iggymcfrack
70sFan wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
MiamiBulls wrote:Moses.

Hakeem was essentially a variant of Carmelo Anthony on Offense. Who never had a TS+ above 104 outside of '93 & '94 in his prime years.


Hakeem was more efficient than Moses in the postseason. Also scored on higher volume and was a MUCH better (if still not great) passer.

RS:

1979-83 Moses: 25.0 adj pp75 on +4.7 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 24.5 adj pp75 on +2.3 rTS%

PS:

1979-83 Moses: 24.8 adj pp75 on +2.9 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 27.5 adj pp75 on +3.1 rTS%

Where does this "much more efficienct" come from?


I never said that. I said he was "more efficient" and a "MUCH better passer".

Re: Better offensive anchor? Hakeem or Moses?

Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:24 am
by 70sFan
iggymcfrack wrote:
70sFan wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
Hakeem was more efficient than Moses in the postseason. Also scored on higher volume and was a MUCH better (if still not great) passer.

RS:

1979-83 Moses: 25.0 adj pp75 on +4.7 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 24.5 adj pp75 on +2.3 rTS%

PS:

1979-83 Moses: 24.8 adj pp75 on +2.9 rTS%
1989-95 Hakeem: 27.5 adj pp75 on +3.1 rTS%

Where does this "much more efficienct" come from?


I never said that. I said he was "more efficient" and a "MUCH better passer".

Fair enough, but 0.2 percentage point advantage in TS% isn't something I'd even mention.