3 best midrange shooters by decade
Posted: Tue Aug 8, 2023 1:34 pm
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Colbinii wrote:1960s: West, Oscar, Greer
1970s: Gervin, Goodrich, Westphal
1980s: Bird, English, I Thomas
1990s: Miller, Jordan, Price
2000s: Nash, Dirk, Garnett
2010s: CP3, Durant, Curry
AEnigma wrote:Yeah I meant Eddie Johnson (not the Kings one).
rk2023 wrote:Need more time for a comprehensive list and equal decade distributions, but my top mid-range guys of all time in no order (looking at proficiency and what on film I can instantly recall, more than volume rather):
Nash
Paul
West
Jordan
Kobe
Durant
Kawhi
Dirk
Kareem
Jokic
70sFan wrote:rk2023 wrote:Need more time for a comprehensive list and equal decade distributions, but my top mid-range guys of all time in no order (looking at proficiency and what on film I can instantly recall, more than volume rather):
Nash
Paul
West
Jordan
Kobe
Durant
Kawhi
Dirk
Kareem
Jokic
What do you think about Oscar and Gervin? I think both can be inside that list.
Owly wrote:Colbinii wrote:1960s: West, Oscar, Greer
1970s: Gervin, Goodrich, Westphal
1980s: Bird, English, I Thomas
1990s: Miller, Jordan, Price
2000s: Nash, Dirk, Garnett
2010s: CP3, Durant, Curry
Granting that I'm lower than most on Thomas and the limitations of the tools, eyeballing it I think most (all?) the rest will be north of 80% from the stripe (and mostly north of at least 82%) ... he stands out to me. I'm not aware of him having that rep particularly. Dumars I would think more so. I could be wrong.
I'll throw out Rickey Pierce reputationally as a name (i think) not yet mentioned for that era (perhaps to a lesser degree former Sonics teammate Eddie Johnson - though looking at it I think that's what another poster meant).
Some of the better long 2 (past 16ft, per Reference) "career" (since '97) percentages belong to
Bogues (only shooting wide open, small sample)
Bonner
Ferry
Kerr
Hornacek
Stockton
some short midrangers (10-16ft) with a strong percentage include
Seth Curry
M Price
McCollum
Paul
Kerr
Ricky Pierce
Obviously looks vary, my list isn't comprehensive or fully up to date, the shortened 3pt line for 97 making the average distance of a "long 2" shorter may especially tilt small samples around that era (Bogues, Price to a lesser degree Ferry and others).
Oh and it can depend if you're targeting specifically good at midrange (i.e. not 3pt) or the best shooters from there whatever else they may be (e.g . could be even better from 3).
Owly wrote:AEnigma wrote:Yeah I meant Eddie Johnson (not the Kings one).
I think that you do mean the Kings [and Phoenix and Seattle ....] (tall, forward, cleaner off court rep) one and not the primarily Hawks one (guard, shorter, had off-court issues).
But yes, I see it's edited.
Edit: Or at least, per my previous comment the forward would be the one more regarded as having a sweet shot. I can't actually claim to know your intent.
wojoaderge wrote:Bob McAdoo
70sFan wrote:1950s: Arizin, Sharman, Yardley
1960: West, Oscar, Jones
1970s: Gervin, Barry, Westphal
1980s: King, English, Bird
1990s: Jordan, Miller, Price
2000s: Dirk, Nash, Kobe
2010s: Durant, Paul, Kawhi
homecourtloss wrote:70sFan wrote:1950s: Arizin, Sharman, Yardley
1960: West, Oscar, Jones
1970s: Gervin, Barry, Westphal
1980s: King, English, Bird
1990s: Jordan, Miller, Price
2000s: Dirk, Nash, Kobe
2010s: Durant, Paul, Kawhi
Any room for Frazier with that beautiful lean in shot when going left? Walt put up some gaudy TS Added numbers shooting a lot of those shots. I know you posted a video about him so you might have some tracking data — a lot of those attempts were unassisted and were contested and very difficult turnaround shots, or they were pull ups with a lot of hand jostling pre-shot. It was an absolutely beautiful shot.