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Give your top 12 offensive players in the NBA currently, in order preferably. It is up to you to choose how to rank guys like Kawhi/LeBron/Zion with their injuries and, in LeBron's case, playing through the injury which affected his on-court play. Here would be my top 12

1.) Nikola Jokic
2.) Stephen Curry
3.) Luka Doncic
4.) Damian Lillard
5.) Kevin Durant
6.) Kawhi Leonard
7.) LeBron James (pre-injury)
8.) Ja Morant
9.) Trae Young
10.) Devin Booker
11.) Zion Williamson
12.) Donovan Mitchell

Many honorable mentions for sure:
- Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
- Kyrie Irving
- Giannis Antetokounmpo
- Joel Embiid
- Jayson Tatum
And there might be some more

How is Zion better than Giannis, Embiid, SGA and Tatum offensively?

TheGOATRises007 wrote:How is Zion better than Giannis, Embiid, SGA and Tatum offensively?

When healthy (a fallacy in itself, at that) an argument can be made off the basis of his scoring efficiency. I see Zion as a Gen Z Barkley sort of, albeit his paint scoring and finishing is nowhere near the era outlier it was in Barkley’s case. That said, I’m still curious to see Zion’s numbers when making it through a playoff gauntlet and without having a special load management schedule which gives him an advantage ITO production.

I love how Pre-Injury LeBron is here as if he needs to make the list and you use a stipulation for him.

1-2: Nikola Jokic / Luka Doncic

3-4: Kawhi Leonard/Stephen Curry

5-10: Giannis Antetokounmpo (used more as a roll-guy)/Devin Booker/Zion Williamson/Donovan Mitchell/Kevin Durant/Damian Lillard/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

11: Ja Morant
12-13: Trae Young (Assuming he is closer to 21 and 22 iterations)/Lebron

Based off what we know. Guys could take leaps or decline.

Colbinii wrote:I love how Pre-Injury LeBron is here as if he needs to make the list and you use a stipulation for him.

Confused at what you’re trying to say here lol, pre injury and post injury bron were very different since he was playing through one

I’d think you gotta do it for Jimmy too then

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I love how Pre-Injury LeBron is here as if he needs to make the list and you use a stipulation for him.

Confused at what you’re trying to say here lol, pre injury and post injury bron were very different since he was playing through one

I’d think you gotta do it for Jimmy too then

I am saying that LeBron somehow has a caveat that "Post-Injury" doesn't make it but "Pre-Injury" does.

However, the title says currently, which is now.

Colbinii wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I love how Pre-Injury LeBron is here as if he needs to make the list and you use a stipulation for him.

Confused at what you’re trying to say here lol, pre injury and post injury bron were very different since he was playing through one

I’d think you gotta do it for Jimmy too then

I am saying that LeBron somehow has a caveat that "Post-Injury" doesn't make it but "Pre-Injury" does.

However, the title says currently, which is now.

I mean playing through injury =/= that’s what he is now though

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Confused at what you’re trying to say here lol, pre injury and post injury bron were very different since he was playing through one

I’d think you gotta do it for Jimmy too then

I am saying that LeBron somehow has a caveat that "Post-Injury" doesn't make it but "Pre-Injury" does.

However, the title says currently, which is now.

I mean playing through injury =/= that’s what he is now though

Sure, so why not just say LeBron James

1.) Nikola Jokic
2.) Stephen Curry
3.) Luka Doncic
4.) Damian Lillard
5.) Kevin Durant
6.) Jayson Tatum
7.) Devin Booker
8.) Joel Embiid
9.) Giannis Antetokounpo
10.) Shai-Gilgeous Alexander

All interchangeable to some extent. I think from the original list the obvious divergence would be Morant,Zion. Players with clear holes in their game that I just don't see how they would trump any of the guys on this list?

I'd put my foot down pretty hard on Giannis being included as well. We can get cute about 'all round' offense. But the stark reality is that teams are literally building to be able to stop him on offense, 'giannis stopper' is a real thing. The combination of size, athleticism, physical dominance and ability to make plays is unrivalled right now. He has holes clearly in his shooting, but that by and by is largely irrelevant when he chooses to play to his strengths.

Embiid another divergence. Leading scorer in the league, can take you at every single level, how many 7 footers with his profile do you see jab stepping on the perimeter? None, the aesthetics and the impact analytics support it.

Trae Young, I can see the argument, incredible passer and penetrator. Though with a misplaced reputation as an elite shooter. Could chop and change with Shai, but I prefer the rounded skillset of Shai on that end better. Including the team cohesion aspect to it.

Colbinii wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

Colbinii wrote:
I am saying that LeBron somehow has a caveat that "Post-Injury" doesn't make it but "Pre-Injury" does.

However, the title says currently, which is now.

I mean playing through injury =/= that’s what he is now though

Sure, so why not just say LeBron James

Pre injury lebron = bubble AD it seems