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Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:37 am
by Ein Sof
>Both low-FG% midrange gunners with a "bag"
>Both needed superior bigs to get anywhere
>Both poor leaders
>Both have back-to-back scoring titles
>Both fanbases blame injuries
>Both blew a 3-1 lead in the 1st round in their best season
Prime stats comparison.
Kobe = 28/6/5 on 46%FG and 34%3P
T-Mac = 27/7/5 on 44%FG and 35%3P
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 11:00 am
by One_and_Done
Kobe was T-Mac's figurative kid brother, in that T-Mac was clearly the better player at his peak.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:07 pm
by tsherkin
One_and_Done wrote:Kobe was T-Mac's figurative kid brother, in that T-Mac was clearly the better player at his peak.
McGrady's 03 season was definitely one for the ages. A shame it was wasted on such a trash squad.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 5:18 pm
by JustBuzzin
tsherkin wrote:One_and_Done wrote:Kobe was T-Mac's figurative kid brother, in that T-Mac was clearly the better player at his peak.
McGrady's 03 season was definitely one for the ages. A shame it was wasted on such a trash squad.
Blame Grant Hill not being healthy.
People forget those teams were bad because they were paying Grant Hill max money and he was in street clothes.
That team would have been a contender had Hill stayed healthy. Tmac honestly should have stayed in Toronto with VC. They had potential to be MJ/Pippen 2.0.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 10:59 pm
by tsherkin
JustBuzzin wrote:tsherkin wrote:One_and_Done wrote:Kobe was T-Mac's figurative kid brother, in that T-Mac was clearly the better player at his peak.
McGrady's 03 season was definitely one for the ages. A shame it was wasted on such a trash squad.
Blame Grant Hill not being healthy.
People forget those teams were bad because they were paying Grant Hill max money and he was in street clothes.
That team would have been a contender had Hill stayed healthy. Tmac honestly should have stayed in Toronto with VC. They had potential to be MJ/Pippen 2.0.
McGrady and Hill would have been incredible. And yes, T Mac should have stayed. He didnt realize how much Vince preferred being number two instead of the focal scorer, sadly.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Mon Jun 3, 2024 11:59 pm
by penbeast0
I don't know about OP's second point. Kobe certainly played well with great and good bigs but Tmac really only played with one star quality big and that was Yao. And, without having the stats, it seemed every year like Tmac looked good not great until Yao got injured then Tmac would step into a nearby phone booth and play like Superman for awhile. I'm not sure he had the mental makeup to max his skills with another superstar but might be more of an Iverson type player who needed to be surrounded by defensive specialists who could play off his creation skills to max his team impact.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:49 pm
by An Unbiased Fan
Imagine thinking 75 year old box score metrics capture a player's impact. Perhaps......Kobe's value goes beyond a statline and that's why his career is much different from Vince and Tmac's.
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:30 am
by LakerLegend
Vince and McGrady both say Kobe is in the GOAT discussion so..
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:32 am
by penbeast0
LakerLegend wrote:Vince and McGrady both say Kobe is in the GOAT discussion so..
And Michael Jordan said he was going to bring Charlotte a championship so . . .
Re: Vince may have been T-Mac's cousin, but Kobe was his BROTHER
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2024 1:52 pm
by CBS7
Ein Sof wrote:>Both low-FG% midrange gunners with a "bag"
>Both needed superior bigs to get anywhere
>Both poor leaders
>Both have back-to-back scoring titles
>Both fanbases blame injuries
>Both blew a 3-1 lead in the 1st round in their best season
At least half of these are stretches