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What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:26 am
by ardee
I'll go mine first:
2011
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Dwight Howard
3. LeBron James
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Chris Paul
2012
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Russell Westbrook
2013
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Stephen Curry
4. Chris Paul
5. Tim Duncan
2014
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Stephen Curry
5. Blake Griffin
2015
1. Stephen Curry
2. Chris Paul
3. LeBron James
4. James Harden
5. Anthony Davis
2016
1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Russell Westbrook
4. Kevin Durant
5. Kawhi Leonard
2017
1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Kevin Durant
2018
1. LeBron James
2. James Harden
3. Anthony Davis
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. Chris Paul/Stephen Curry (very hard to choose between them this year to be honest, both had injuries in the RS as well as PS but had similarly massive impact on great teams)
2019
1. Kawhi Leonard
2. Stephen Curry
3. James Harden (to be honest this top 3 could go in any order)
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. Nikola Jokic
2020
1. LeBron James
2. Anthony Davis
3. Nikola Jokic
4. James Harden
5. Giannis Antetokounmpo/Kawhi Leonard (again a very difficult choice at the end of the ballot)
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:46 am
by iggymcfrack
I'd have some minor quibbles here and there, but overall this is a remarkably good list. I feel like 99% of the time when I'd see something like this posted, I'd tend to fixate on one or two things I agreed with, but my overwhelming impression is just what a good job you did with this and how remarkably similar it is to what my own list would be.
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:30 pm
by AEnigma
Is this based in player quality, or is it more based around a “player of the year” concept?
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:51 pm
by wafflzgod
2011
1) LeBron James
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Dwyane Wade
4) Dwight Howard
5) Kobe Bryant
2012
1) LeBron James
2) Kevin Durant
3) Chris Paul
4) Dirk Nowitzki
5) Dwyane Wade
2013
1) LeBron James
2) Kevin Durant
3) Chris Paul
4) Kobe Bryant
5) Russell Westbrook
2014
1) LeBron James
2) Kevin Durant
3) Chris Paul
4) Steph Curry
5) Blake Griffin
2015
1) Steph Curry
2) LeBron James
3) Chris Paul
4) Anthony Davis
5) James Harden
2016
1) LeBron James
2) Steph Curry
3) Kevin Durant
4) Chris Paul
5) Kawhi Leonard
2017
1) LeBron James
2) Steph Curry
3) Kevin Durant
4) Kawhi Leonard
5) Russell Westbrook
2018
1) LeBron James
2) Steph Curry
3) Kevin Durant
4) James Harden
5) Anthony Davis
2019
1) Steph Curry
2) Kevin Durant
3) James Harden
4) Kawhi Leonard
5) Giannis Antetokounmpo
2020
1) LeBron James
2) Giannis Antetokounmpo
3) James Harden
4) Anthony Davis
5) Kawhi Leonard
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:21 pm
by 1993Playoffs
Dwight over Lebron is somewhat egregious right?
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:15 pm
by Special_Puppy
2015
1. Steph Curry
2. Chris Paul
3. James Harden
4. Anthony Davis
5. LeBron James
2016
1. Steph Curry
2. LeBron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Kawhi Leonard
2017
1. Steph Curry
2. LeBron James
3. Russell Westbrook
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. James Harden
2018
1. James Harden
2. LeBron James
3. Damian Lillard
4. Anthony Davis
5. Chris Paul
2019
1. James Harden
2. Giannis Antetokounmpo
3. Paul George
4. Nikola Jokic
5. Steph Curry
2020
1. James Harden
2. Giannis Antetokounmpo
3. LeBron James
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Damian Lillard
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:31 pm
by Cavsfansince84
1993Playoffs wrote:Dwight over Lebron is somewhat egregious right?
Honestly it wouldn't be so bad if Dwight were a proven chemistry/bbiq/leadership type of guy but in hindsight we know he's bad if not terrible in all 3 of these areas and granted it was his best rs but his team also lost in the 1st rd to the Hawks while LeBron's lost in the finals in 6 games. So I think LeBron should be ahead of him. I also wouldn't agree with Steph over LeBron in 2015 but his team won the title so I guess some people think he was the better player that year. I mean its defensible but I don't think he should be ahead of LeBron in really any of those years(15-18).
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:52 am
by rk2023
2011: Dirk LBJ Wade CP3 Dwight
2012: LBJ Durant CP3 Dirk Garnett
2013: LBJ CP3 Durant Kobe Curry
2014: LBJ Durant CP3 Curry Blake
2015: Curry LBJ CP3 AD Harden
2016: LBJ Curry Westbrook Durant CP3/Draymond/Kawhi
2017: LBJ Curry Kawhi Durant CP3/Harden/Westbrook
2018: LBJ Durant AD Harden Curry
2019: Giannis Kawhi Harden Curry Durant
2020: LBJ Giannis AD Harden Kawhi
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:00 pm
by The Explorer
So only 1 person here has the MVP of the league, all-nba first teamer in their top 5 in 2011? Do people even have Rose in their top 20 in 2011? Insane.
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:45 am
by giordunk
I watched all of these seasons and how are you guys even able to recollect each season and be able to differentiate them in your head like this
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 11:47 am
by LukaTheGOAT
The Explorer wrote:So only 1 person here has the MVP of the league, all-nba first teamer in their top 5 in 2011? Do people even have Rose in their top 20 in 2011? Insane.
I imagine he would comfortably be in everyone's top 10 for that year if the lists reached that long.
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:01 pm
by OhayoKD
1993Playoffs wrote:Dwight over Lebron is somewhat egregious right?
if dirk is fair, not sure why dwight wouldn't be
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:23 pm
by ShotCreator
2011
1) Dirk Nowitzki
2) Dwyane Wade
3) CP3
4) Dwight Howard
5) LeBron
HM; Nash/Garnett
2012
1) LeBron James
Rest; TBD
2013
1) LeBron James
2) Chris Paul
3) Kevin Durant
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Duncan
HM; KG
2014
1) Chris Paul
2) LeBron James
3) Kevin Durant
4) Steph Curry
5) Westbrook
2015
1) Steph Curry
2) CP3
3) Anthony Davis
4) Draymond
5) Westbrook
HM; Harden, LeBron
2016
1) LeBron James
2) Draymond
3) Curry
4) Kawhi
5) CP3
HM; Westbrook/KD
2017
1) Steph Curry
2) LeBron James
3) Kawhi Leonard
4) Draymond
5) CP3
HM; Jokic/Westbrook/KD
2018
TBD
2019
1) James Harden
2) AD
3) Steph Curry
4) Kawhi Leonard
5) Jokic
HM; PG/Draymond/KD/Giannis
2020
1) AD
2) Harden
3) LeBron
4) Kawhi
5) Giannis
HM: Luka/Jokic
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:37 pm
by ShotCreator
Years like 2018 confuse me. Maybe they shouldn't.
LeBron was so so good in some ways, but just not good in others like defense. Pouted throughout the season and played terrible RS D overall. By far the best offensive player in the 2018 playoffs.
2012 was loaded with really bad playoff runs for a variety of reasons. Howard injured and missed it entirely, which I don't care about too much. But Wade was getting his knee drained, and CP3 was hobbling through injury, they get docked even though they could've just missed time like Howard and not have it against them?
Then KG was a ridiculously dominant player in 2012. And actually stifled LeBron big time in their time on the court agaisnt each other in 2012. It's essentially a more skilled, much more resilient version of what Gobert would do in the early 2020's IMO. And I don't see why he was much worse in 2013. They crushed NY's really good offense in the first round.
I want to TBD 2013 as well.
16 Curry's injury messes with me too. Draymond basically carried him in the playoffs overall.
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 9, 2024 8:45 pm
by Narigo
2020
1.LeBron James
2.Giannis Antkoumpo
3.James Harden
4.Kawhi Leonard
5.Anthony Davis
6.Chris Paul
7.Jimmy Butler
8.Luka Doncic
9.Damian Lillard
10.Nikola Jokic
2019
1.Giannis Antetokounmpo
2.James Harden
3.Nikola Jokic
4.Stephen Curry
5.Kawhi Leonard
6.Damian Lillard
7.Kevin Durant
8.Paul George
9.Joel Embiid
10.Rudy Gobert
2018
1.LeBron James
2.James Harden
3.Anthony Davis
4.Giannis Antetokkounmpo
5.Kevin Durant
6.Stephen Curry
7.Nikola Jokic
8.Damian Lillard
9.Russell Westbrook
10.Lamarcus Aldridge
2017
1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. James Harden
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Kevin Durant
7. Chris Paul
8. Jimmy Butler
9. Giannis Antetokounmpo
10. Nikola Jokic
2016
1.Stephen Curry
2.LeBron James
3.Kawhi Leonard
4.Russell Westbrook
5.Kevin Durant
6.Chris Paul
7.Draymond Green
8.Kyle Lowry
9.James Harden
10.Paul George
2015
1. Stephen Curry
2. James Harden
3. Russell Westbrook
4. LeBron James
5. Chris Paul
6. Anthony Davis
7. DeMArcus Cousins
8. LaMArcus Aldridge
9. Damian Lillard
10.Kawhi Leonard
2014
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kevin Love
4. Stephen Curry
5. James Harden
6. Blake Griffin
7. Chris Paul
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10.Paul George
2013
1.LeBron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Chris Paul
4.Russell Westbrook
5.Stephen Curry
6.James Harden
7.Dwyane Wade
8.Tim Duncan
9.Tony Parker
10.Kobe Bryant
2012
1.LeBron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwyane Wade
5.Kevin Love
6.Dwight Howard
7.Russell Westbrook
8.Dirk Nowitzki
9.Tony Parker
10.Kevin Garnett
2011
1.LeBron James
2.Dwight Howard
3.Dwyane Wade
4.Dirk Nowitzki
5.Chris Paul
6.Derrick Rose
7.Kevin Durant
8.Kobe Bryant
9.Manu Ginobli
10.Pau Gasol
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:07 pm
by Colbinii
The Explorer wrote:So only 1 person here has the MVP of the league, all-nba first teamer in their top 5 in 2011? Do people even have Rose in their top 20 in 2011? Insane.
Can you explain where you would have him?
Clearly worse than LeBron, Dirk, Wade and Dwight.
I have him worse than CP3. Kobe and Durant both have strong arguments as well.
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:12 am
by ceoofkobefans
2011
1. LeBron
2. Dirk
3. Dwyane
4. Dwight
5. KD/Kobe/CP3
2012
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3
4. Kobe
5. Wade/Russ/Dirk
2013
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3/Kobe
5. Dirk/Russ/Melo
2014
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3
4. Steph
5. Dirk/Melo/Blake/Love
2015
1. LeBron/Steph
3. CP3
4. Russ
5. AD/Harden
2016
1. LeBron
2. Steph
3. KD/Russ
5. Kawhi/Harden/AD
2017
1. LeBron
2. Steph
3. KD
4. Kawhi
5. Russ
2018
1. LeBron/Steph
3. KD
4. Harden
5. AD
2019
1. Kawhi
2. Steph
3. Harden
4. Giannis/AD/KD
2020
1. LeBron
2. Harden
3. AD/Giannis
5. Kawhi
Re: What is your top 5 each year from 2011-20?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:22 pm
by ardee
ceoofkobefans wrote:2011
1. LeBron
2. Dirk
3. Dwyane
4. Dwight
5. KD/Kobe/CP3
2012
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3
4. Kobe
5. Wade/Russ/Dirk
2013
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3/Kobe
5. Dirk/Russ/Melo
2014
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. CP3
4. Steph
5. Dirk/Melo/Blake/Love
2015
1. LeBron/Steph
3. CP3
4. Russ
5. AD/Harden
2016
1. LeBron
2. Steph
3. KD/Russ
5. Kawhi/Harden/AD
2017
1. LeBron
2. Steph
3. KD
4. Kawhi
5. Russ
2018
1. LeBron/Steph
3. KD
4. Harden
5. AD
2019
1. Kawhi
2. Steph
3. Harden
4. Giannis/AD/KD
2020
1. LeBron
2. Harden
3. AD/Giannis
5. Kawhi
I'm a huge Kobe guy but it's hard to see him top 5 in 2011 or 2013. 2011 he was simply gassed and injured in the Playoffs, looked way worse than the title years. 2013 he was definitely top 5 RS, but the Playoff injury is the issue here, hard to put him over guys like Curry and Duncan who actually killed it in the PS.
2012 gotta have KG in there too imo, that Playoff run was crazy.
2018: how come Steph tied for first after missing over 30 games + a whole Playoff series?
Otherwise most of it looks pretty solid.