All Primes: Dream Team vs Team USA 2024

[rand]

Who wins a best of 7 under modern FIBA rules/refs/coaches?

All players are in their prime and healthy.

Dream Team
Magic Johnson / John Stockton
Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen / Chris Mullin
Karl Malone / Charles Barkley / Christian Laettner
David Robinson / Patrick Ewing

Team USA 2024
Steph Curry / Jrue Holiday / Tyrese Haliburton
Anthony Edwards / Devin Booker / Devin White
Kevin Durant / Jayson Tatum
LeBron James / Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid / Bam Adebayo

[SlimShady83]

Dream Team

[SlimShady83]

In Red Is who I have winning In their match ups.

John Stockton - Steph Curry
Yes I'd put Stockton on Curry - much like the bron match up with Malone, I think Stockton slows him down, but doesn't stop him completely but slows him down.

Magic Johnson / Jrue Holiday / Tyrese Haliburton
Magic and Holiday would be Interesting not sure about Magics or even Holiday's defense who does It better? Magic not known for his defense and I don't know much about Holiday's Defense?

Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
Anthony Edwards / Devin Booker / Devin White
*** This shouldn't be a discussion MJ and Clyde would demolish Antman/Booker/White both offense and defense

Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen Chris Mullin
Kevin Durant / Jayson Tatum

*** This Is Interesting IMO... I'd put Bird on Durant, Pippen on Tatum - I think Durant offense still does It, but Bird still gets his numbers as well - would be a show down.
Pippen takes It over Tatum

Karl Malone / Charles Barkley / Christian Laettner

LeBron James / Anthony Davis
*** I think Malone would be a problem for Bron he has the strength to deal with Bron, no doubt, wouldn't be able to stop Bron, but will contain him and slow him down

Anythony Davis IMO takes It over Barkley and wins this contest.

Patrick Ewing/David Robinson
Joel Embiid / Bam Adebayo

Call me crazy, but I'd put Ewing on Joel, Robinson on Bam, both take the cake and win their match ups even mix It up If things don't work out.

Let's just not worry about the left overs
edit: might do a Robinson/Embiid comparing thread? haha.

Peace

[Hair Jordan]

In Red Is who I have winning In their match ups.

John Stockton - Steph Curry
Yes I'd put Stockton on Curry - much like the bron match up with Malone, I think Stockton slows him down, but doesn't stop him completely but slows him down.

Magic Johnson / Jrue Holiday / Tyrese Haliburton
Magic and Holiday would be Interesting not sure about Magics or even Holiday's defense who does It better? Magic not known for his defense and I don't know much about Holiday's Defense?

Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
Anthony Edwards / Devin Booker / Devin White
*** This shouldn't be a discussion MJ and Clyde would demolish Antman/Booker/White both offense and defense

Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen Chris Mullin
Kevin Durant / Jayson Tatum

*** This Is Interesting IMO... I'd put Bird on Durant, Pippen on Tatum - I think Durant offense still does It, but Bird still gets his numbers as well - would be a show down.
Pippen takes It over Tatum

Karl Malone / Charles Barkley / Christian Laettner

LeBron James / Anthony Davis
*** I think Malone would be a problem for Bron he has the strength to deal with Bron, no doubt, wouldn't be able to stop Bron, but will contain him and slow him down

Anythony Davis IMO takes It over Barkley and wins this contest.

Patrick Ewing/David Robinson
Joel Embiid / Bam Adebayo

Call me crazy, but I'd put Ewing on Joel, Robinson on Bam, both take the cake and win their match ups even mix It up If things don't work out.

Let's just not worry about the left overs
edit: might do a Robinson/Embiid comparing thread? haha.

Peace

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

[MiltownMadness]

In Red Is who I have winning In their match ups.

John Stockton - Steph Curry
Yes I'd put Stockton on Curry - much like the bron match up with Malone, I think Stockton slows him down, but doesn't stop him completely but slows him down.

Magic Johnson / Jrue Holiday / Tyrese Haliburton
Magic and Holiday would be Interesting not sure about Magics or even Holiday's defense who does It better? Magic not known for his defense and I don't know much about Holiday's Defense?

Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
Anthony Edwards / Devin Booker / Devin White
*** This shouldn't be a discussion MJ and Clyde would demolish Antman/Booker/White both offense and defense

Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen Chris Mullin
Kevin Durant / Jayson Tatum

*** This Is Interesting IMO... I'd put Bird on Durant, Pippen on Tatum - I think Durant offense still does It, but Bird still gets his numbers as well - would be a show down.
Pippen takes It over Tatum

Karl Malone / Charles Barkley / Christian Laettner

LeBron James / Anthony Davis
*** I think Malone would be a problem for Bron he has the strength to deal with Bron, no doubt, wouldn't be able to stop Bron, but will contain him and slow him down

Anythony Davis IMO takes It over Barkley and wins this contest.

Patrick Ewing/David Robinson
Joel Embiid / Bam Adebayo

Call me crazy, but I'd put Ewing on Joel, Robinson on Bam, both take the cake and win their match ups even mix It up If things don't work out.

Let's just not worry about the left overs
edit: might do a Robinson/Embiid comparing thread? haha.

Peace

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

Bro the very first thing he says is Stockton over Curry lmao.

I love this post tho, it reads like a fever dream. Entertaining

[penbeast0]

In Red Is who I have winning In their match ups.

John Stockton - Steph Curry
Yes I'd put Stockton on Curry - much like the bron match up with Malone, I think Stockton slows him down, but doesn't stop him completely but slows him down.

Magic Johnson / Jrue Holiday / Tyrese Haliburton
Magic and Holiday would be Interesting not sure about Magics or even Holiday's defense who does It better? Magic not known for his defense and I don't know much about Holiday's Defense?

Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
Anthony Edwards / Devin Booker / Devin White
*** This shouldn't be a discussion MJ and Clyde would demolish Antman/Booker/White both offense and defense

Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen Chris Mullin
Kevin Durant / Jayson Tatum

*** This Is Interesting IMO... I'd put Bird on Durant, Pippen on Tatum - I think Durant offense still does It, but Bird still gets his numbers as well - would be a show down.
Pippen takes It over Tatum

Karl Malone / Charles Barkley / Christian Laettner

LeBron James / Anthony Davis
*** I think Malone would be a problem for Bron he has the strength to deal with Bron, no doubt, wouldn't be able to stop Bron, but will contain him and slow him down

Anythony Davis IMO takes It over Barkley and wins this contest.

Patrick Ewing/David Robinson
Joel Embiid / Bam Adebayo

Call me crazy, but I'd put Ewing on Joel, Robinson on Bam, both take the cake and win their match ups even mix It up If things don't work out.

Let's just not worry about the left overs
edit: might do a Robinson/Embiid comparing thread? haha.

Peace

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

Again, you give no reasons for your take and I think you're dead wrong. In a system where you already have 4 other primary scorers on the floor, Barkley's offense is less valuable than it is in a normal team framework where AD's huge defensive advantage is magnified. Add the modern day component to it and I think AD is easily the more valuable player in this context though I'd rather start a new team of normal talent with Barkley.

I do think the Stockton over Curry is a bit of a hot take. I am one of the big Stockton stans on the board and he is the better defender and the better playmaker but he's out on the floor with Magic and Bird who are both healthy prime versions of themselves (not the actual Dream team versions) so his playmaking advantage is greatly diminished. And although Stockton was a terrific lower volume efficiency guy with excellent 3 point range; Curry is the greatest outside shooter in NBA history and I am relatively certain would impact the series more, probably by a significant degree.

[MiltownMadness]

Prime Curry would absolutely break all these hypothetical legends games. I'd venture to say his impact would be greater than any other player on the floor, he changed the game. The math of 3 being worth more than a 2 makes it so the modern team would win pretty handily. The game evolved too much in 30 years

[SlimShady83]

Bro the very first thing he says is Stockton over Curry lmao.

I love this post tho, it reads like a fever dream. Entertaining

As I said above, Stockton Isn't "STOPPING" Curry completely but he Is "SLOWING him down" Stockton plays both ends of the floor very well and for this reason alone I say Stokton wins this match up, sure Curry still gets 20+ points, but Stockton will be a pest for Curry and again both ends of the floor - I mean I love Curry and his In my top 10 for a reason (don't drag this thread into this topic please lol), but against Stockton omg - You're just currently hyped probably from just watching the Olyimpic team atm, fair enough

And In your post below after this, you're saying Curry Is the best and basically saying ain't no one stopping him If I really wanted to stop him completly I would put MJ/Pippen and even Clyde on Curry.

[SlimShady83]

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

How so? please explain ... AD plays both ends of the floor and would wipe the floor with Barkley. I like Barkley don't get me wrong, but you realise how good AD Is on the defense side of things?

[penbeast0]

Stockton was a terrific defender but not because he was a stopper. His defensive strength was in getting steals in the passing lanes and, quite frankly, being a dirty player that would cause opponents to lose their cool.

Curry's spacing and ability to hit defended 3's even against top defenders is the strongest argument that team 2024 could win this despite all the big names on the Dream Team. Stack enough 3 pointers v. 2 point counters from the other team and 2024 has a shot.

Just scrolled up and saw Miltown posted much the same thing about Curry so And 1 coming for him.

[SlimShady83]

Stockton was a terrific defender but not because he was a stopper. His defensive strength was in getting steals in the passing lanes and, quite frankly, being a dirty player that would cause opponents to lose their cool.

Curry's spacing and ability to hit defended 3's even against top defenders is the strongest argument that team 2024 could win this despite all the big names on the Dream Team. Stack enough 3 pointers v. 2 point counters from the other team and 2024 has a shot.

110% It's why I said Stockton won't "STOP" Curry, but he will help slow him down. And If I really needed to stop Curry, MJ,Pippen and even Clyde would be the go to.

[penbeast0]

Even if Stockton plays the series like prime Walt Frazier, do you really think he's more impactful than Curry on a team where the ball will probably be in the hands of Magic or Bird more than his?

[SlimShady83]

Even if Stockton plays the series like prime Walt Frazier, do you really think he's more impactful than Curry on a team where the ball will probably be in the hands of Magic or Bird more than his?

Probably not as much, but he would get his turn on the offense.

[Hair Jordan]

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

How so? please explain ... AD plays both ends of the floor and would wipe the floor with Barkley. I like Barkley don't get me wrong, but you realise how good AD Is on the defense side of things?

Prime AD is so good he can’t even get out I the first round with Lebron on his team. In fact, he’s 1-8 in his last 9 playoff games. Put prime Barkley with the current iteration of Lebron and they’d wreck it in the playoffs.

[SlimShady83]

AD over Barkley? You just lost all credibility with that take.

How so? please explain ... AD plays both ends of the floor and would wipe the floor with Barkley. I like Barkley don't get me wrong, but you realise how good AD Is on the defense side of things?

Prime AD is so good he can’t even get out I the first round with Lebron on his team. In fact, he’s 1-8 in his last 9 playoff games. Put prime Barkley with the current iteration of Lebron and they’d wreck it in the playoffs.

What's that got to do with the point of this thread? It's about Dream Team vs USA 2024, meaning you not putting Barkley and Bron on the same team LMAO

[Tomtolbert]

1992 only has one significant 3 point threat in the starting lineup, in Bird. They could change that by inserting Mullin and Stockton, but that obviously hurts them in other facets. I think this is fairly easily 2024.

[jalengreen]

One thought I have is that I was really not fond of Team USA's bench this year. Just lacked playmaking and cohesion in general on the offensive end (AD always went crazy on defense at least), lot of Ant or KD iso ball. We don't know what prime Hali looks like at this point (or Ant for that matter), but assuming normal development, I'd probably like to see him running the floor in those situations.

Anyway because of the development of the game, the 2024 squad takes it regardless.

[EmpireFalls]

Prime Hali and Ant (and maybe Tatum ?) remain to be seen. If they become superstars I might pick 2024. As it stands, didn’t like their bench offense at all though, so I lean 1992.

[Ol Roy]

Under modern rules, they might have selected a different roster in 1992.

Mark Price and Reggie Miller stand out as two guys who would be absolutely lighting it up today.

[homecourtloss]

Under modern rules, they might have selected a different roster in 1992.

Mark Price and Reggie Miller stand out as two guys who would be absolutely lighting it up today.

Mark Price wouldn’t be able to stay on the court defensively in today’s game. He was a brilliant offensive player and given his physical limitations, including height, one of the greatest offensive players ever, but teams attack players such as him much differently than they used to be when he was playing when he was already a defensive liability.