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Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 3:34 am
by mdonnelly1989
This imo is super close.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 6:35 am
by durden_tyler
i just remember Mutumbo with the Sixers and already past his prime but still blocking those shots.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 6:44 am
by donato
I have no idea but thought the poll would be closer. Also DR got cooked by Olajuwon (so did everyone I guess).

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 11:49 am
by tsherkin
donato wrote:I have no idea but thought the poll would be closer. Also DR got cooked by Olajuwon (so did everyone I guess).


A single-game matchup will never be a good way to evaluate the impact of a guy's impact on team defense, though. Like, everyone who is aware of it remembers the 95 WCFs, but Hakeem was at his peak. Robinson wasn't an 8-time All-D guy and a former DPOY because he sucked. Dude was catching DPOY votes as late as 2001, which is years after his back injury and everything.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:37 pm
by druggas
Mutombo had a bigger impact on the defensive end.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:06 pm
by Doranku
The Admiral defended our country so I'll give him the edge here

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:33 pm
by AStark1991
I'm going with the Admiral. He was far more athletic and mobile. Nothing against Mutombo, but he was basically a stationary volleyball spiker. When it comes down to things like speed, agility, and lateral quickness it's not even close.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:44 pm
by Optms
Mutumbo pretty easily. For those that saw both, not sure how this is a debate. Poll results are insanity.

A real comparison would be Mourning vs Mutombo. There were tiers and Robinson was not on that level. Shaq was better in my opinion.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 6:46 pm
by mdonnelly1989
Optms wrote:Mutumbo pretty easily. For those that saw both, not sure how this is a debate. Poll results are insanity.

A real comparison would be Mourning vs Mutombo. There were tiers and Robinson was not on that level. Shaq was better in my opinion.


Poll results are fairly close

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 6:50 pm
by kcktiny
DRob was the starting C of the Spurs 1989-90 to 1995-96, 1997-98 to 2002-03, 13 seasons. Those 13 seasons San Antonio was the best team in the league defensively at just 101.0 pts/100poss allowed. They allowed the lowest 2pt FG% (45.4%) - that's over 1034 games - the 2nd lowest 3pt FG% (33.6%), had the 3rd best defensive rebounding percentage (71.1%), yet were 2nd worst in the league in turnovers forced (just 15.4 opponent TO/100poss).

So the team was great defensively - for a long time, 13 seasons - primarily because of the low 2pt FG% allowed (86% of the FGAs they faced were 2pters), and their very good defensive rebounding.

During that time DRob played 34124 minutes (no one else on the Spurs played more than 20700), close to 1/7 of the Spurs total minutes played (Duncan played just 1/2 that much, 17726 minutes). He had 7382 defensive rebounds (no one else on then team had even 4100), 2948 blocked shots (no one else even 1200), and was named to the all-defensive team 7 times.

Actually those 13 seasons DRob's 2948 blocks were 339 more than any other player in the league, and his 7382 defensive rebounds the 2nd most among all players in the league.

So Robinson was - by far - the best defensive player on a team that over 13 seasons was the best defensive team in the league.

Mutumbo pretty easily. For those that saw both, not sure how this is a debate. Poll results are insanity.


Easily? It's a debate because you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Two of the best defensive Cs ever in league history, but one's team had far more defensive success than the other.

Even without Duncan (the 7 years 1989-90 to 1995-96) DRob's Spurs allowed the 2nd lowest opponent 2pt FG% (46.7%) - that's over 574 games - with the 2nd best defensive rebounding percentage (70.3%), were still bad at forcing turnovers (3rd worst in the league at 15.3 opponent TO/100poss), and were still the 3rd best team defensively (103.4 pts/100poss allowed) in the league.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 7:50 pm
by Ol Roy
Optms wrote:Mutumbo pretty easily. For those that saw both, not sure how this is a debate. Poll results are insanity.

A real comparison would be Mourning vs Mutombo. There were tiers and Robinson was not on that level. Shaq was better in my opinion.


If you think these poll results are insanity, you should make a poll testing your opinion that Shaq was better than David.

Re: Better Defensively: Dikembe Mutombo or David Robinson

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2025 11:09 pm
by One_and_Done
Peak D.Rob easily because he has better perimeter mobility by far, and is arguably just as good or better around the rim.