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Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:00 am
by One_and_Done
Who was more impactful?

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:36 am
by Cavsfansince84
I'd say Kobe but I think Dwight definitely had the potential to be a tier above Kobe peak wise. He just didn't have that mindset to do it.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:54 am
by ceoofkobefans
Who peaked higher Steph Curry or Alonzo Mourning

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:12 am
by One_and_Done
ceoofkobefans wrote:Who peaked higher Steph Curry or Alonzo Mourning

Not remotely comparable, since Curry is better than Kobe and Dwight is better than Zo.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:00 am
by ceoofkobefans
One_and_Done wrote:
ceoofkobefans wrote:Who peaked higher Steph Curry or Alonzo Mourning

Not remotely comparable, since Curry is better than Kobe and Dwight is better than Zo.


Both are pretty comparable but I’d probably agree with this?

Comparison very much holds

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:27 am
by tsherkin
I'm leaning towards Dwight here. Kobe was a much more effective volume scorer and playmaker, but I think Dwight's D and rebounding were immense, especially in-era. Guess it comes down to value system. Dwight took Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis, Rafer Alston and Mickael Pietrus through Lebron James and into the Finals.

In that Finals, Kobe had a pretty rough scoring performance, and was heavily carried by team rebounding, leaned pretty hard on Gasol's efficiency, and Lamar Odom suddenly BLAZING away from 3.

I'd say it's pretty close, because despite all that, Kobe started tons and tons of LA's offense and of course was shouldering a large shot creation burden out of necessity. But peak to peak, I'd take Dwight.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:25 pm
by ceiling raiser
Dwight. For about five years, Dwight was a clear top 3 player in the league. I don't think it's so much a BBIQ issue - Kobe made the best of his limited toolset. He just didn't have the same talent as the guys he's compared to, in many cases.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:38 am
by mdonnelly1989
ceoofkobefans wrote:Who peaked higher Steph Curry or Alonzo Mourning



The sarcasm here :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:39 am
by mdonnelly1989
Dwight isn’t anywhere near Kobe

Kobe is a 95 / 96

Dwights peak prime was around 92/93

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:16 am
by GeorgeMarcus
Kobe, no question

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:30 am
by Matt15
Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:38 am
by GeorgeMarcus
Matt15 wrote:Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.


I'd go D Rob though I'm admittedly higher on him than most

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:24 am
by FrodoBaggins
It's close and can be argued either way, depending on team-building and stylistic preferences. FWIW, here's how they compare in Taylor Snarr's/Dunks & Threes' Estimated Plus-Minus (EPM):


Best Three Year EPM Stretch:

Lebron James(08-10) +9.26
Chris Paul(08-10) +8.73
Dwyane Wade(09-11) +6.96
Kevin Garnett(03-05) +6.56
Dirk Nowitzki(06-08) +5.7
Tim Duncan(05-07) +5.66
Kobe Bryant(06-08) +5.5
Dwight Howard(09-11) +5.5

Steve Nash(05-07) +4.96

Best Single Year EPM:

Chris Paul(2009) +10.8
Lebron James(2009) +10.3
Dwyane Wade(2009) + 7.9
Kevin Garnett(2003) +7.0
Tim Duncan(2005) +6.5
Dirk Nowitzki(2003) +6.3
Kobe Bryant(2006) +5.9
Dwight Howard(2011) +5.8

Steve Nash(2007) +5.5

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:40 am
by One_and_Done
Matt15 wrote:Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Peak is easily D.Rob.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:19 pm
by tsherkin
Matt15 wrote:Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.


D-Rob for sure. And even his playoff struggles match off nicely against Kobe's struggles in the Finals and stuff.

Robinson had a near-30ppg regular season and a scoring title one year. ROY, DPOY, MVP. Quadruple double. League-high 4.5 bpg season. He had a good run in the top-2 of the DPOY vote, couple more top-4, bounced back nicely after the injury with a rep suppressed some from playing with Duncan. He had a great careeer.

Same haircut the entire time, too. xD

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:51 pm
by Tim Lehrbach
mdonnelly1989 wrote:Dwight isn’t anywhere near Kobe

Kobe is a 95 / 96

Dwights peak prime was around 92/93


What do these numbers mean?

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:50 pm
by mdonnelly1989
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:Dwight isn’t anywhere near Kobe

Kobe is a 95 / 96

Dwights peak prime was around 92/93


What do these numbers mean?


Peak MJ is a 100

Worst player of all time is a 1

A 1 point difference is the difference between All NBA first and All NBA 2nd on average

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:24 am
by Note30
OP dude really a whole hater. Every thread I'm in he stay hatin’ on Kobe. Like damn, get his dick out yo mouth.

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:10 am
by bigboi
Lmaoooooooooo. Only on Realgm would This comparison be possible, none of you ever express these opinions in real life lmao. You’d get laughed at. Kobe and it isn’t even close

Re: Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:14 am
by bigboi
tsherkin wrote:I'm leaning towards Dwight here. Kobe was a much more effective volume scorer and playmaker, but I think Dwight's D and rebounding were immense, especially in-era. Guess it comes down to value system. Dwight took Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis, Rafer Alston and Mickael Pietrus through Lebron James and into the Finals.

In that Finals, Kobe had a pretty rough scoring performance, and was heavily carried by team rebounding, leaned pretty hard on Gasol's efficiency, and Lamar Odom suddenly BLAZING away from 3.

I'd say it's pretty close, because despite all that, Kobe started tons and tons of LA's offense and of course was shouldering a large shot creation burden out of necessity. But peak to peak, I'd take Dwight.


You say some of the dumbest nonsense I’ve ever seen. Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Cut the bs, this is getting clownish. Howard only averaged 15 a game that series and there was no doubt at any point who the best player was, Kobe and it was NEVER close