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How many Russell/Wilt years would you take over Peak Dwight Howard?

None probably.

Russell-60-67
Wilt- 60-64, 66-68

Most, maybe all. Dwight's prime and peak was in one of the weakest Center times in nba history.

I mean without the old person tax I feel like it's not crazy to take all the Bill Russell years.

Agree, the only reason not to take a Russell year, maybe even all the Wilt years, would be lack of playing time in his rookie season or the finals injury. But he led them to a title in his rookie year and in the finals injury season, he was pretty dominant in the regular season.

Dwight Howard was a very good player but just not GOAT level; Russell (defense and team results) and Wilt (most dominant individual seasons) are in that conversation with MJ, LeBron, and Kareem.

More challenging is how do you compare Dwight just in Orlando v. Moses just in Houston; they were in reasonably similar situations.

Literally every Russell/Wilt year

penbeast0 wrote:Agree, the only reason not to take a Russell year, maybe even all the Wilt years, would be lack of playing time in his rookie season or the finals injury. But he led them to a title in his rookie year and in the finals injury season, he was pretty dominant in the regular season.

Dwight Howard was a very good player but just not GOAT level; Russell (defense and team results) and Wilt (most dominant individual seasons) are in that conversation with MJ, LeBron, and Kareem.

More challenging is how do you compare Dwight just in Orlando v. Moses just in Houston; they were in reasonably similar situations.

Don't see Dwight better any of his seasons compared to Moses in Houston, just remembering Moses' two mvps there, maybe his earlier years were not elite caliber, haven't looked. Moses rebounded better and scored much better. Defense looks like Dwight but again, era with less bigs.

migya wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:Agree, the only reason not to take a Russell year, maybe even all the Wilt years, would be lack of playing time in his rookie season or the finals injury. But he led them to a title in his rookie year and in the finals injury season, he was pretty dominant in the regular season.

Dwight Howard was a very good player but just not GOAT level; Russell (defense and team results) and Wilt (most dominant individual seasons) are in that conversation with MJ, LeBron, and Kareem.

More challenging is how do you compare Dwight just in Orlando v. Moses just in Houston; they were in reasonably similar situations.

Don't see Dwight better any of his seasons compared to Moses in Houston, just remembering Moses' two mvps there, maybe his earlier years were not elite caliber, haven't looked. Moses rebounded better and scored much better. Defense looks like Dwight but again, era with less bigs.

I don't think Moses's defense matched up to Dwight's; he wasn't the shotblocker Dwight was and not as quick, though more physically punishing.

penbeast0 wrote:

migya wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:Agree, the only reason not to take a Russell year, maybe even all the Wilt years, would be lack of playing time in his rookie season or the finals injury. But he led them to a title in his rookie year and in the finals injury season, he was pretty dominant in the regular season.

Dwight Howard was a very good player but just not GOAT level; Russell (defense and team results) and Wilt (most dominant individual seasons) are in that conversation with MJ, LeBron, and Kareem.

More challenging is how do you compare Dwight just in Orlando v. Moses just in Houston; they were in reasonably similar situations.

Don't see Dwight better any of his seasons compared to Moses in Houston, just remembering Moses' two mvps there, maybe his earlier years were not elite caliber, haven't looked. Moses rebounded better and scored much better. Defense looks like Dwight but again, era with less bigs.

I don't think Moses's defense matched up to Dwight's; he wasn't the shotblocker Dwight was and not as quick, though more physically punishing.

Looks like Dwight was definitely better but era of era and competition is quite different. Moses was against some great Centers and frontlines.