Top 100 Players of all time

[ceoofkobefans]

With the Bleacher report list coming out and all this all time list talk being thrown around here's a top 100 list I've spent the last few years working on

1. LeBron James
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Steph Curry
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Bill Russell
11. Magic Johnson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Larry Bird
14. Kevin Durant
15. Oscar Robertson
16. Karl Malone
17. Chris Paul
18. Dirk Nowitzki
19. Jerry West
20. Nikola Jokic
21. Julius Erving
22. David Robinson
23. Giannis Antetokounmpo
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Charles Barkley
26. Moses Malone
27. Steve Nash
28. James Harden
29. Patrick Ewing
30. John Stockton
31. Anthony Davis
32. Russell Westbrook
33. Scottie Pippen
34. Jason Kidd
35. Rick Barry
36. John Havlicek
37. Kawhi Leonard
38. Elgin Baylor
39. Reggie Miller
40. Dwight Howard
41. Allen Iverson
42. Ray Allen
43. Walt Frazier
44. Clyde Drexler
45. Gary Payton
46. Isiah Thomas
47. Kevin McHale
48. Paul Pierce
49. Artis Gilmore
50. George Gervin
51. Dave Cowens
52. Alonzo Mourning
53. Paul George
54. Jimmy George
55. Vince Carter
56. Dominique Wilkins
57. Dikembe Mutumbo
58. Elvin Hayes
59. Tracy McGrady
60. Manu Ginobili
61. Willis Reed
62. Bob McAdoo
63. Joel Embiid
64. Draymond Green
65. James Worthy
66. Grant Hill
67. Shawn Kemp
68. Dan Issel
69. Carmelo Anthony
70. Robert Parish
71. Chauncey Billups
72. Tony Parker
73. Damian Lillard
74. Luka Doncic
75. Wes Unseld
76. Nate Thurmond
77. Larry Nance Sr.
78. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
79. Chris Webber
80. Kyrie Irving
81. Bob Lanier
82. Sam Jones
83. Rasheed Wallace
84. Marquese Johnson
85. Kyle Lowry
86. Joe Dumars
87. Dennis Rodman
88. Jayson Tatum
89. Bobby Jones
90. Mark Price
91. Chris Mullin
92. Jerry Lucas
93. Bill Walton
94. Marc Gasol
95. Alex English
96. Kevin Johnson
97. Deron Williams
98. Penny Hardaway
99. Blake Griffin
100. Mitch Richmond

[Elpolo_14]

With the Bleacher report list coming out and all this all time list talk being thrown around here's a top 100 list I've spent the last few years working on

1. LeBron James
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Steph Curry
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Bill Russell
11. Magic Johnson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Larry Bird
14. Kevin Durant
15. Oscar Robertson
16. Karl Malone
17. Chris Paul
18. Dirk Nowitzki
19. Jerry West
20. Nikola Jokic
21. Julius Erving
22. David Robinson
23. Giannis Antetokounmpo
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Charles Barkley
26. Moses Malone
27. Steve Nash
28. James Harden
29. Patrick Ewing
30. John Stockton
31. Anthony Davis
32. Russell Westbrook
33. Scottie Pippen
34. Jason Kidd
35. Rick Barry
36. John Havlicek
37. Kawhi Leonard
38. Elgin Baylor
39. Reggie Miller
40. Dwight Howard
41. Allen Iverson
42. Ray Allen
43. Walt Frazier
44. Clyde Drexler
45. Gary Payton
46. Isiah Thomas
47. Kevin McHale
48. Paul Pierce
49. Artis Gilmore
50. George Gervin
51. Dave Cowens
52. Alonzo Mourning
53. Paul George
54. Jimmy George
55. Vince Carter
56. Dominique Wilkins
57. Dikembe Mutumbo
58. Elvin Hayes
59. Tracy McGrady
60. Manu Ginobili
61. Willis Reed
62. Bob McAdoo
63. Joel Embiid
64. Draymond Green
65. James Worthy
66. Grant Hill
67. Shawn Kemp
68. Dan Issel
69. Carmelo Anthony
70. Robert Parish
71. Chauncey Billups
72. Tony Parker
73. Damian Lillard
74. Luka Doncic
75. Wes Unseld
76. Nate Thurmond
77. Larry Nance Sr.
78. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
79. Chris Webber
80. Kyrie Irving
81. Bob Lanier
82. Sam Jones
83. Rasheed Wallace
84. Marquese Johnson
85. Kyle Lowry
86. Joe Dumars
87. Dennis Rodman
88. Jayson Tatum
89. Bobby Jones
90. Mark Price
91. Chris Mullin
92. Jerry Lucas
93. Bill Walton
94. Marc Gasol
95. Alex English
96. Kevin Johnson
97. Deron Williams
98. Penny Hardaway
99. Blake Griffin
100. Mitch Richmond

Damn the work to memorize all the player ability and impact to put into one list is astonishing.

Just a question but why James harden is so Low?

[ceoofkobefans]

Damn the work to memorize all the player ability and impact to put into one list is astonishing.

Just a question but why James harden is so Low?

Harden doesn't really feel that low to me. His peak would be in the fringe top 25 range for me and then guys like malone dirk chuck who would probably be below him peak wise get back over him for their longevity. I could see him as high as 23 or 24 but could also see him a few spots lower

[One_and_Done]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

[mdonnelly1989]

For me I have Kobe borderline 10, but I can see why people put him there with 5 rings.

[Ol Roy]

Jack Sikma belongs somewhere in the back half.

[70sFan]

I see no 1950s players, not even Bob Pettit. From which year do you start counting players?

Other than that, it's a pretty decent list, even with some strong disagreements here and there. I wonder what makes someone like Nique top 60 player, Melo top 70 but Dantley out of the list.

[SlimShady83]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

Kobe Kobe, Kobe ... That will help you sleep, haha.

[ceoofkobefans]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

[ceoofkobefans]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

You could've chose to talk about countless players along with kobe at least but nah you just wanna have the same convos hating on bean lmao

[ceoofkobefans]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

You could've chose to talk about countless players along with kobe at least but nah you just wanna have the same convos hating on bean lmao

[ceoofkobefans]

Jack Sikma belongs somewhere in the back half.

Sikma was actually one of the first players off the list and i did consider him heavily. If you slide him in over BG or Mitch I understand it totally

[ceoofkobefans]

I see no 1950s players, not even Bob Pettit. From which year do you start counting players?

Other than that, it's a pretty decent list, even with some strong disagreements here and there. I wonder what makes someone like Nique top 60 player, Melo top 70 but Dantley out of the list.

Sorry I forgot to mention before hand i was omitting 50s players from the list. If I did i would've had Pettit, Cousy, Schayes, Mikan all on the list and would've considered some others

as for dantley not making the list while nique and melo did its a longevity thing firstly but i also prefer the two peak for peak as well and they have longer primes

[One_and_Done]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

You could've chose to talk about countless players along with kobe at least but nah you just wanna have the same convos hating on bean lmao

If Kobe was 10 spots too low in your list he would be minus 5.

[ceoofkobefans]

Kobe is at least 10 spots too high.

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

You could've chose to talk about countless players along with kobe at least but nah you just wanna have the same convos hating on bean lmao

If Kobe was 10 spots too low in your list he would be minus 5.

yes that was the joke

[SlimShady83]

more like 10 spots too low

I also find it hilarious that on a list of ONE HUNDRED Players you choose to only talk about kobe

You could've chose to talk about countless players along with kobe at least but nah you just wanna have the same convos hating on bean lmao

Don't worry he has actually, ranked Kobe much lower, 15 is good for him Lmao

[70sFan]

I see no 1950s players, not even Bob Pettit. From which year do you start counting players?

Other than that, it's a pretty decent list, even with some strong disagreements here and there. I wonder what makes someone like Nique top 60 player, Melo top 70 but Dantley out of the list.

Sorry I forgot to mention before hand i was omitting 50s players from the list. If I did i would've had Pettit, Cousy, Schayes, Mikan all on the list and would've considered some others

as for dantley not making the list while nique and melo did its a longevity thing firstly but i also prefer the two peak for peak as well and they have longer primes

What makes Nique (let's focus on him) longevity any better than Dantley's? Nique's prime is 1984-94 at most, Dantley's 1978-88. Even if you argue that Lakers years aren't good enough, that's still not a big gap.

I can understand the peak conversation, although I personally don't see it. Nique was a much worse scorer and he didn't have any notable advantages over Dantley, outside of offensive rebounding. Nique also didn't have a better postseason career either.

Either way, the difference from top 60 to outside the list is quite massive. I guess the differences in the bottom half are small anyway. Do you consider Dantley for HM?

[penbeast0]

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as for dantley not making the list while nique and melo did its a longevity thing firstly but i also prefer the two peak for peak as well and they have longer primes

All three got almost all their value from scoring, none were good defenders or playmakers so let's look at that claim using TS Added which compared players to their peers for a combination of scoring and efficiency:

Dantley 15 years, career TS Added 3109.6

Nique 15 years, more minutes than Dantley, but career TS Added -32.8

Carmelo 19 years, more minutes than either of the others, career TS Added 72.0

Prime shows similar results, with all 3 having long primes as scorers but Carmelo being the longest, then Nique, then Dantley. So basically, if all you care about is shooting a lot, this makes sense, but if you care about efficiency as well as shooting, Dantley blows them both out of the water. In terms of playoffs, Dantley on the Pistons is the only one to go to the NBA finals and Dantley's playoff scoring efficiency shows the most resilience.

You can make a case for Nique on personality in terms of being more loved by his coaches and fan base over the other two. Dantley was the worst rebounder of the 3, the assist rates for all 3 are similar with Carmelo being the highest and Nique the lowest but Dantley having more turnovers and Nique the least. So, if you ignore scoring efficiency, then it's probably Carmelo and Nique over Dantley. I just think that's an awfully huge elephant in the room to ignore.

[Djoker]

I'm sorry man. You can't have Russell at #10. That's way too low.

[ceoofkobefans]

I'm sorry man. You can't have Russell at #10. That's way too low.

i think russell at 10 is very fair. he just doesn't have the peak for me