Bynum vs Yao

[KobeFarmarEra]

Starting a franchise, which one do you take?

Yes I'm a Lakers fan and I would unbiasedly take Bynum over Yao without thinking twice.

Bynum is turning into an ELITE TWO WAY players. His shot blocking and length are incredible and he jumps as high as Dwight Howard (proven fact at the Orlando pre-draft camp).

Andrew Bynum right now does not a have a very refined post game, but has shown flashes that he could be absolutely dominant in the post. He has shown he can hit the jump hook with either hand, quick spins, up and unders and his hit Duncan-esque 8 foot bank shots without even jumping. Kareem Abdul Jabbar who works with Bynum everday also claims that Andrew can HIT THE SKY hook, but is hesistant to use it in games (due to the shot not being accepted as the 'NBA norm' and Bynum wanting to develop his jumper).

For comparison:

20 year old Bynum: 12.8 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.1 bpg, 29 mpg, .629 FG%

22 year old Yao: 13.5 ppg, 9rpg, 1.8 bpg, 29 mpg, .50 FG%

Winner = Andrew Bynum

As of right now, a 20 year old Bynum is arguably already a better defender/rebounder and has more impact on the defensive end than a 27 year old Yao. The choice is clear.

[NYKnick87]

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[schaffy]

So far Bynum has a very limited offensive game mostly using dunks and layups for his scoring.

[SDChargers#1]

Right now Yao without question, but within 2 years (hell maybe even 1 year) it will be Bynum from then on.

[T.Duncan21]

Yao... I like Bynum and he will be a good player but he wont be near the level that Yao's on... IMO. I would take Yao over Bynum 100 times out of 100

[SDChargers#1]

Yao... I like Bynum and he will be a good player but he wont be near the level that Yao's on... IMO. I would take Yao over Bynum 100 times out of 100

If you are talking about the present then you are correct. HOWEVER, Bynum is already a good player. He has the potential to become a great to legendary player (if he keeps working as hard as he has).

[TooNice00]

actually as of right now a 20 year old bynum ISN'T arguably a better defender than current yao and definitely doesn't have more of an impact on the defensive end. i can see some of the fascination in the potential of bynum but he has a long ways to go before i would take him over yao. yao is a franchise player. i would never consider bynum a franchise player at this point. and i highly doubt any team would even consider building around bynum.

[SDChargers#1]

actually as of right now a 20 year old bynum ISN'T arguably a better defender than current yao and definitely doesn't have more of an impact on the defensive end. i can see some of the fascination in the potential of bynum but he has a long ways to go before i would take him over yao. yao is a franchise player. i would never consider bynum a franchise player at this point. and i highly doubt any team would even consider building around bynum.

Maybe before the season started you were right. But as of right now 30+ games into the season, teams absolutely see Bynum as a franchise player. Right now Bynum probably has more trade value than any player in the league not named Lebron, Dwight, Wade, Paul, and maybe a few others. His value is probably equal to Greg Oden's right now (maybe more because of lack of injury), and Oden is absolutely considered a franchise player.

Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Yao. Yes, Yao is an overall better defender, but not by that much at all.

[TooNice00]

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Maybe before the season started you were right. But as of right now 30+ games into the season, teams absolutely see Bynum as a franchise player. Right now Bynum probably has more trade value than any player in the league not named Lebron, Dwight, Wade, Paul, and maybe a few others. His value is probably equal to Greg Oden's right now (maybe more because of lack of injury), and Oden is absolutely considered a franchise player.

Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Yao. Yes, Yao is an overall better defender, but not by that much at all.

uhh bynum isn't even close to having the most trade value in the league. there are numerous player with equal or more trade value. and no he doesn't have more trade value than greg oden. probably not even brandon roy right now. and no team in their right mind would build around bynum at this point, unless they want to suck. or give him a max contract, that of a franchise player. but i can tell you one thing bynum isn't a better defender than yao, much less has the impact of yao on defense. put it this way bynum isn't even close to being the defensive player that yao is.

[TooNice00]

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If you are talking about the present then you are correct. HOWEVER, Bynum is already a good player. He has the potential to become a great to legendary player (if he keeps working as hard as he has).

bynum will never become a legendary player. regardless if he works hard or not. granted he is 20 years old, but he has been in the league 3 years. and is just now actually doing something. he sucked the previous 2 years.

[KobeFarmarEra]

actually as of right now a 20 year old bynum ISN'T arguably a better defender than current yao and definitely doesn't have more of an impact on the defensive end. i can see some of the fascination in the potential of bynum but he has a long ways to go before i would take him over yao. yao is a franchise player. i would never consider bynum a franchise player at this point. and i highly doubt any team would even consider building around bynum.

Are you kidding me? Bynum is already a BETTER SHOT BLOCKER than Yao right now. He is also quicker on rotations and his lateral quickness is superior.

RIGHT NOW, the only thing Yao has on Bynum is scoring.

Fact.

[KobeFarmarEra]

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bynum will never become a legendary player.

And why not?

regardless if he works hard or not. granted he is 20 years old, but he has been in the league 3 years. and is just now actually doing something. he sucked the previous 2 years.

You don't even know what you're talking about. Bynum WAS THE YOUNGEST PLAYER EVER DRAFTED. He wasn't even done growing and only played 40 total games of highschool basketball.

Learn the facts before you post.

[Baller 24]

Yao now, and Yao later, IMO Bynum hasn't lived up to his number 1 pick selection...While the players after him have....Chris Paul, Deron Williams....etc..

[KobeFarmarEra]

So far Bynum has a very limited offensive game mostly using dunks and layups for his scoring.

Limited now and like I pointed out, he has shown flashes of a great post game (he just needs a couple years of solid repetition). But there is no reason he can't becomes a consistent 20 point scorer.

Bynum is second in the ENTIRE NBA in dunks behind Dwight Howard. If it was so easy to get easy dunks - everyone would dunk at will. However, it is not easy to do and proves Bynum is a force already at 20 years old.

[KobeFarmarEra]

:rofl: Yao now, and Yao later, IMO Bynum hasn't lived up to his number 1 pick selection...While the players after him have....Chris Paul, Deron Williams....etc..

Haha. Has anyone posted anything more dumb?

Bynum was drafted 10th. Number 10.

TENTH.

[SDChargers#1]

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bynum will never become a legendary player. regardless if he works hard or not. granted he is 20 years old, but he has been in the league 3 years. and is just now actually doing something. he sucked the previous 2 years.

See this is coming from someone who doesn't watch Laker games and has no idea about the true progression of Andrew Bynum.

When the Lakers drafted Bynum he was 17 (youngest player in NBA history), and incredibly raw (only played basketball his last couple of years of high school and was injured his senior year).

His first year he barely played cause he just wasn't ready. He didn't have the conditioning to even play 8 minutes a game. This year was more about him learning the game. However, as a Laker fan I could still see the potential. He had that great move against Shaq (the year they won the title), but that was the only highlight.

His second year he made HUGE strides. His minutes nearly tripled because he was in better shape. His numbers went up across the board, and at the beginning of the season he looked excellent. However, once again his conditioning, although much improved, ended up making him drop a lot in the second half of the season.

This year he has made even BIGGER strides. He is nearly up to 30 minutes a game (will be there by the end of the year), and finally looks like he is in NBA basketball shape. He is putting up 12.8 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.1 bpg, 63% FG%. Simply put this year he is dominating. He is still only 20 years old. At this point this year he is already a top 5 center (as a 20 year old), and his number keep getting higher and higher as the team is realizing that he is our second option.

And if you look at him you can see he still has unbelievable room for improvement. He has the frame to put 20-30 lbs of muscle (if not more) on. He has one of the longest wing spans in the league. He absolutely has the potential to be legendary. If you don't see that then you are blind.

[KobeFarmarEra]

As for Yao being a better defender - what are you people basing this on?

Yao Ming holds oposing centers to a efg% of .455 and a per of 14.6

Bynum holds oposing centers to an efg% of .416 and a per of 13.8

Bynum BLOCKS shots at a higher rate. Bynum REBOUNDS at a higher rate. Bynum is quicker and can leap higher. Oh and he is about 7 years younger and only getting starting.

I fail to see how anyone can say Yao is a better defender with a straight face.

[TooNice00]

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Are you kidding me? Bynum is already a BETTER SHOT BLOCKER than Yao right now. He is also quicker on rotations and his lateral quickness is superior.

RIGHT NOW, the only thing Yao has on Bynum is scoring.

Fact.

who cares if bynum is a better shot blocker? amare is a better shot blocker than yao. doesn't matter. yao is much more feared in the paint than andrew bynum. yao ming alters way more shots than bynum. not to mention he is a vastly better man defender.

[Baller 24]

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Haha. Has anyone posted anything more dumb?

Bynum was drafted 10th. Number 10.

TENTH.

WOW LMFAO I was thinking about Andrew Bogut LOL sorry for the stupid remarks...

Anyways right now Id take Yao...but maybe in about 3-4yrs from now Bynum...But I think he still needs to work on his inside game...like post ups, turnarounds...etc...his stats have gotten better, but hes no Duncan, KG, and I don't even think hes going to be as good a player then Yao in the future, but he will be good.

[KobeFarmarEra]

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who cares if bynum is a better shot blocker?

Because Bynum is a better at anchoring the middle and he has proved it.

- amare is a better shot blocker than yao.

Amare isn't Andrew Bynum

doesn't matter. yao is much more feared in the paint than andrew bynum.

It does matter and you have absolutely ZERO proof of Yao being more feared in the middle.

yao ming alters way more shots than bynum.

Now you're resorting LYING. Pathetic

not to mention he is a vastly better man defender.

Heh, based on what? I just posted stats that PROVE THIS STATEMENT WRONG.

If you don't believe in stats, you can just look at the fact that Bynum is more athletic, has a LONGER wing span, is a better shotblocker, is quicker, faster, can jump higher, etc.

It's clear you have rarely seen Andrew Bynum play.