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Top 10 centers...

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:30 pm
by Hussien Fatal
Who do you think are the best centers in the NBA this year heres my list...


1. Howard (23 and 15 enough said)
2. Yao (22.5 and 10 and 86% from the line)
3. Amare ( Plays just 31 minutes but puts up 22 and 10)
4. Kaman ( Probley the biggest surprise this year putting up 18 and 14)
5. Camby ( averaging 4 blocks and 14 rebound a game in 34 minutes)
6. Big Al ( putting up 22 and 12 good numbers but his team sucks so that took a toll on him on this list)
7. Bynum ( putting up 12 and 10 with 2 blocks on a great team and hes just 20 years old)
8. Dalembert (team sucks but hes putting up career numbers averaging 12 and 10 with 3 blocks, he also anchors his teams Defense every night)
9. Chandler (12 and 12 on a surprising team but his surprisingly low number of blocks hurts himon this list)
10. Bogut ( havce the best season of his career putting up 13 9 and 3 on a lossing team)

Honerable Mention (Okafor, Miller, Biedrins, and Ilgauskas)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:42 pm
by Joseph17
That seems like a pretty good list. The only change I would make is putting Chandler over Dalembert. You know that the center position is weak when Chris Kaman is the 4th best center in the league. :-?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:50 pm
by sackings916
1.Dwight Howard
2. Yao
3. Amare
4. Al Jefferson
5. Camby
6. Kaman
7. Chandler
8. Andrew Bynum
9. Brad Miller
10. Dalembert

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:53 pm
by 2poor
Al Jefferson is a PF more than anything else, Chandler > Dalembert

Just because he doesn't get the blocks doesn't mean that he isn't disrupting shots, have you seen how many blocks David West has been getting because of him? On last check, West actually had more blocks on the season than did Chandler.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 pm
by farzi
After reading the player comparison forum for the past few weeks, I know that any list without Bynum as number 1 is obviously just trolling.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:42 pm
by Alex_De_Large
1. Yao
2. D12
3. Amare
4. Camby
5. KamEn
6. Chandler





7-Biedrins (improved)
8. Bynum (improved)
9-Rasheed Wallace (underrated)
10-Brad Miller, or Haywood (right now, deserves mention)


BigBen, Dalembert, Shaq, Kristic, Bogut, lgauskas are off.


and considering J.O, Okafor, Gasol, Al Jefferson or Duncan more PF. i know jefferson have been playing center in the last games.

Re: Top 10 centers...

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:59 pm
by Griever24
Hussien Fatal wrote:Who do you think are the best centers in the NBA this year heres my list...


1. Howard (23 and 15 enough said)
2. Yao (22.5 and 10 and 86% from the line)
3. Amare ( Plays just 31 minutes but puts up 22 and 10)
4. Kaman ( Probley the biggest surprise this year putting up 18 and 14)
5. Camby ( averaging 4 blocks and 14 rebound a game in 34 minutes)
6. Big Al ( putting up 22 and 12 good numbers but his team sucks so that took a toll on him on this list)
7. Bynum ( putting up 12 and 10 with 2 blocks on a great team and hes just 20 years old)
8. Dalembert (team sucks but hes putting up career numbers averaging 12 and 10 with 3 blocks, he also anchors his teams Defense every night)
9. Chandler (12 and 12 on a surprising team but his surprisingly low number of blocks hurts himon this list)
10. Bogut ( havce the best season of his career putting up 13 9 and 3 on a lossing team)

Honerable Mention (Okafor, Miller, Biedrins, and Ilgauskas)


That seems like resonable list .. i agree though switch Dalembert and Chandler ... i look at those other centers though you dont think ilgauskas and okafor deserve to be amongst the top 10 ?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:16 pm
by nate33
Haywood is easily better than Dalembert and Bogut. He is arguably better than Chandler, Jefferson and Kaman.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:36 pm
by sackings916
nate33 wrote:Haywood is easily better than Dalembert and Bogut. He is arguably better than Chandler, Jefferson and Kaman.


Are u serious? I would take all those guys over Haywood. He's not even on the same level as a Chandler,Jefferson or Kaman.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:48 pm
by Julio
Howard, Yao, Amare (in that order IMO) are the top trio.
I would put Kaman ahead of Camby, and I don't view Big Al as a Center.He defends way better the 4, and I think of him in offense more as a center.
Haywood should definitively(is that an english word???) be top 7.
Camby, Kaman, Bynum are better than him- not by much tough.
he's better than the rest.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:50 pm
by nate33
sackings916 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Are u serious? I would take all those guys over Haywood. He's not even on the same level as a Chandler,Jefferson or Kaman.

Pace-adjusted per-40 numbers:

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Player        PTS  REB  AST  STL  BLK A/TO eFG%  TS%  PER
haywood,bren 15.6 11.6  1.2  0.7  2.6  0.5 .538 .593 19.1
kaman,chris  18.1 13.8  2.1  0.6  3.0  0.7 .481 .535 18.5
dalembert,sa 14.1 12.5  0.7  0.4  3.2  0.3 .532 .581 17.1
bogut,andrew 15.8 10.8  2.8  0.9  2.0  1.1 .531 .545 16.7
chandler,tys 14.5 14.4  1.2  0.6  1.4  0.5 .594 .620 18.4

He beats them all in PER. He plays better defense than all of them except perhaps Chandler.

Haywood is honestly the best post defender in the league right now. He has absolutely shut down every low post threat he has faced. He completely owns Jefferson, Ilgauskas, Bogut and Shaq. I mean total ownership. They get NOTHING on him. He contained Yao, Duncan, Dwight and Garnett with no help. He routinely shuts down Eddy Curry (though they haven't faced each other this year). And I'm telling you, as sure as I'm standing here, that he will force Kaman into a below-average night when he faces the Clippers. I guarantee it. Kaman is the exact type of player that Haywood thrives against.

Haywood's only defensive weakness is that he sometimes has trouble with quick, scrappy offensive rebounders like Camby.

Yao, has publically stated that Haywood gives him more problems than anybody else. Z wondered aloud during a press conference why Haywood wasn't getting more minutes when Cleveland faced Washington in the playoffs. Several opposing coaches including Van Gundy have said similar things. Go talk to fans of Minnesota, Boston, Milwaukee and New York and ask them how Haywood handles their best low post player.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:13 pm
by ClubLakers KB8
LMAO at Biedrins and Chandler over Bynum.

My top-10:

Yao
Dwight
Amare
Camby
Kaman
Bynum
Dalembert
Chandler
Biedrins
Haywood

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:22 pm
by hermes
Yao
Dwight
Amare
Camby
Kaman
Bynum
Chandler
Haywood
Dalembert
Biedrins

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:46 pm
by j-ragg
1. Bynum

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:52 pm
by Ballings7
Interesting read about Haywood, nate33, I always knew Haywood was a better than average defender in general, but not that good. I'll have to check his defense out some more.

Haywood plays Curry tonight, too

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:56 pm
by The_Believer
Dwight, Yao, Amare, Kaman are clearly the top 4. But IMO Biedrins should be higher than 10th.
BTW, how did Okur make an all-star team despite not being top 10 at his position? That was just messed up imo.

Re: Top 10 centers...

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:30 pm
by Hussien Fatal
Griever24 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That seems like resonable list .. i agree though switch Dalembert and Chandler ... i look at those other centers though you dont think ilgauskas and okafor deserve to be amongst the top 10 ?


i guess one of them could slip onto the list since big Al seems to be a PF.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:28 pm
by Ballings7
TB wrote:BTW, how did Okur make an all-star team despite not being top 10 at his position? That was just messed up imo.


I don't think it was messed up.

He was top ten last year, and made it by the way of injury. This year he's been hurt a couple times, so not in the same form as last year yet.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:15 am
by dockingsched
is al jefferson still playing awful defense against centers?

Re: Top 10 centers...

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:57 pm
by Harst
1. D. Howard
2. A. Stoudemire
3. Y.Ming
4. C.Kaman
5. M.Camby
6. A.Bynum
7. S. Dalembert
8. Z. Ilgauskas