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Best Role Players: Current and All-Time

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:04 am
by bballcool34
By however you define a role player, who would you say is the best:

in today's game?

and all time?

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:50 am
by mudyez
wow..thats hard:

four come to mind:
rodman as a defender/rebounder
schrempf as a defender/shooter (but he made the allstargame which could speek against him beeing an allstar)
eric snow as a defender/playmaker
bruce bowen as a lockdowndefender/shooter (corner-3)

I'd say rodman for alltime and uhm...bowen right now (still)

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:08 am
by Phil Jackson
Robert Horry
Derek Fisher
Rick Fox

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:02 pm
by TrueLAfan
Bobby Jones. May be the best defensive player of all time (at least on the very short list). Incredibly efficient as an offensive player. Great teammate.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:38 pm
by penbeast0
I'd say Bobby Jones too if you define him as a role player . . . . which since he rarely played more than 30 minutes a game he probably should be . . . the thing with Jones is that he did everything well and some definitions of role player are a player who only does one thing (maybe one and a half) like a Michael Redd or a Bruce Bowen.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:39 pm
by tkb
Michael Cooper and Bobby Jones were the first two that popped into my head when I read all time.

Current I'd say Shane Battier, Derek Fisher, Anthony Parker and a couple others.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 3:23 pm
by Jules Winnfield
Kobe Bryant in 2000 - Best ever role player.

Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 3:45 pm
by EiRON
Dennis Rodman
Robert Horry

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:54 pm
by UnRealGM
today? shane battier and tayshaun prince come to mind.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:32 pm
by ITK9
shawn marion
oh wait..the guy consider himself an amazing superstar...

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:15 pm
by SDChargers#1
All Time: Robert Horry (I believe the guy has 8 Championships now, he has hit countless clutch shots in the playoffs as well as big defensive plays)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:54 pm
by Phil Jackson
Jules Winnfield wrote:Kobe Bryant in 2000 - Best ever role player.


Kobe Bryant was a superstar in 2000 he lead them to the title.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:57 pm
by ITK9
Phil Jackson wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Kobe Bryant was a superstar in 2000 he lead them to the title.

no, he did not.shaq was the superstar.kobe was the SECOND option.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:13 pm
by hermes
rodman, jones, and horry

battier, bowen, fisher

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:54 pm
by Phil Jackson
IggyTheKing wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


no, he did not.shaq was the superstar.kobe was the SECOND option.


Kobe Bryant lead them. Shaq was his sidekick.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:56 pm
by Kabookalu
Kobe Bryant

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:25 pm
by BirdIsDaKing
Phil Jackson wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Kobe Bryant lead them. Shaq was his sidekick.


From NBA.com

shaq 2000 stats

29.7 Points Per Game
13.6 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game
3.0 Blocks Per Game
57.4% Field Goal Percentage
40.0 Minutes (Yes. forty)

Kobe 2000 states
22.5 Points Per Game
6.3 Rebounds
4.9 Assists
0.9 Blocks
46.8% Field Goal Percentage
38.2 Minutes

Homerism at its finest.

Shaq was the MVP. He lead that team. Kobe was his robin. Sorry to break the news to you.

You must be Kobe's mother.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:32 am
by Myth_Breaker
Some of them have already been mentioned: Cooper, Rodman, Bobby Jones, Schrempf, Horry... I'd add DeBusschere, McAdoo while in Lakers, Walton and D. Johnson while in Celtics, KC Jones, Paul Silas, JoJo White, Ricky Pierce, Vinnie Johnson, Lovellette while backing up respectively Mikan and Russell, Hornacek, Byron Scott, Terry Porter, Ainge, Cliff Robinson, Maurice Lucas, Bob Dandridge, Bobby Jackson, Sabonis and Kukoc in their weaker NBA versions, Jamaal Wilkes, Frank Ramsey, Satch Sanders, Horace Grant, Oakley (though I despise this thug), Eddie Johnson, Jayson Williams, Aaron McKie, Dick Barnett, Antonio and Dale Davis, Slater Martin, aging Nate McMillan, Alonzo as Shaq's backup...

But best of them all was Havlicek when still coming off the bench for the Celtics: this man could really do everything!

For now we have (no order) Bowen, Fisher, Terry, Rondo, Anthony Johnson, Andre Miller, Anthony Parker, Dampier and Diop (even though Damp is paid like a star), Scola, Biedrins (might become a star), Cassell, maybe Navarro, M. Miller, Steve Blake... Interesting: I see far more candidates on the perimeter than among big men.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:25 am
by Phil Jackson
BirdIsDaKing wrote:
Phil Jackson wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Kobe Bryant lead them. Shaq was his sidekick.


From NBA.com

shaq 2000 stats

29.7 Points Per Game
13.6 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game
3.0 Blocks Per Game
57.4% Field Goal Percentage
40.0 Minutes (Yes. forty)

Kobe 2000 states
22.5 Points Per Game
6.3 Rebounds
4.9 Assists
0.9 Blocks
46.8% Field Goal Percentage
38.2 Minutes

Homerism at its finest.

Shaq was the MVP. He lead that team. Kobe was his robin. Sorry to break the news to you.

You must be Kobe's mother.


Haterism at it's finest.

Kobe Bryant carried Shaq on his back. He brought home the title. I'm not sorry to break it to you.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:49 am
by BirdIsDaKing
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