Julius Erving vs Kevin Garnett - Who you got?

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Julius Erving vs Kevin Garnett - Who you got?

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Post#1 » by JordansBulls » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:39 pm

Julius Erving vs Kevin Garnett - Who you got?
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Post#2 » by philbe311 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:16 pm

Coming from a life long Sixers fan and Dr. J fan, I chose Garnett
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Post#3 » by GLtrojans » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:51 pm

KG is just a better overall player than Dr. J. His intensity and defense are hard to match
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Post#4 » by Warspite » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:00 pm

DrJ is just a better allround player than KG. His offense is just too hard to match.
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Post#5 » by TrueLAfan » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:30 pm

I go with Dr. J. In terms of career, it
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Post#6 » by mudyez » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:18 pm

wow...even if the posts say something else....its 11:0 for KG now
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Post#7 » by Patterns » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:42 pm

If you want to win in this league, you take KG.
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Post#8 » by King Roosk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:54 pm

Patterns wrote:If you want to win in this league, you take KG.


I don't understand this argument? Dr. J won in his league, so I don't get why you take KG to win in this league.
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Post#9 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:09 pm

Patterns wrote:If you want to win in this league, you take KG.


Isn't he an NBA champion and an ABA two time champ?

I'll admit I'm not old enough to have seen the Doctor play, but I've seen a few tapes and from what I've read, the guy was also a very good defender both weakside (2 steals and one block) and man defender. He was also a double digit rebounder while in the ABA and the first year he played in the NBA. Then factor in he was a dominant scorer which KG really has never been, I'd be inclined to take Erving, but again my opinion isn't too valid considering I haven't actually seen him play.
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Post#10 » by HarlemHeat37 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:26 pm

does my man KG even have an argument RIGHT NOW career-wise, until he wins a title?..
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Post#11 » by Patterns » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:34 pm

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I don't understand this argument? Dr. J won in his league, so I don't get why you take KG to win in this league.

You think Dr.J would be as effective as KG in this league?

Dr.J is 6'7 so he'd be a tweener SF/SG.

Dr.J is a legend but anyone would be crazy to take him over KG to win in today's league.

I don't want to hear how today's league is soft or the hand check crap. Today's league is far tougher and talented than Dr.J's league. No disrespect to him of course.
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Post#12 » by hermes » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:55 pm

i'll take KG

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Post#13 » by penbeast0 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:29 pm

If Garnett leads his team to a title this year, this will be something I might have to think about. As it it, Erving was by far the more dominant player IN TERMS OF THE COMPETITION THAT HE FACED . . . . which is the only way you can judge a player.

Whether that level of play was as good (the ABA wasn't, the NBA he played in was the Bird/Magic/era so most overservers think it was) is an argument but unlike Patterns, I don't automatically rate modern players over older ones.

I think Jordan would still be the dominant wing in the league, Erving would be either roughly even with LeBron (if using his ABA form) or in the mix at the next level (his NBA form) and Bird and Magic would also still be dominant players.
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Post#14 » by Datruth345 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:36 pm

odd question

i guess i'll take KG?
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Post#15 » by Cevap » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:05 am

Patterns wrote:If you want to win in this league, you take KG.



bwahahaha :rofl:
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Post#16 » by D.Brasco » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:48 am

KG is a proven winner...for the past 3 months anyways.
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Post#17 » by Myth_Breaker » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:43 pm

Patterns wrote:You think Dr.J would be as effective as KG in this league?

Dr.J is 6'7 so he'd be a tweener SF/SG.

Dr.J is a legend but anyone would be crazy to take him over KG to win in today's league.

I don't want to hear how today's league is soft or the hand check crap. Today's league is far tougher and talented than Dr.J's league. No disrespect to him of course.


Just when I thought I can't hear something even crazier from you... Though this gem definitely takes a cake:
"If you want to win in this league, you take KG."

WTF? A guy who went past the 1st round ONCE in your opinion gives you better chances to win than NBA and ABA champion? How more fictious your arguments can be?! Let KG win a single ring and THEN talk about winning.
Plus this specific nonsense about Erving being "6-7" tweener. Since when 6-7 guys are SF tweeners, also in today's league (where even 6-5 Patterson and Bonzi Wells started at 3!)? Not to mention that: Dr J's skillset was better suited for SF; Erving measured in shoes would be like 6-8; he also was strong and had crazy hops/huge wingspan - so no matter how you look at it, calling him a tweener is simply ridiculous.
I don't rate Dr J as high as Doctor MJ (similarity of names purely coincidental ;-)) or TLA: however, he was simply a great player and until Garnett lead Celts to the title talking about the latter being superior is VASTLY premature. Kevin finally has great supporting cast around: let's see how he fares leading a title contender compared to Dr J.

While as to you: apparently you're prejudiced not only against the 60s, but also the 80s, being the decade considered by so many "Golden Era" of the NBA. Whatever suits you; but you could at least get some knowledge about eras and players you're so easily dismissing, instead of talking stereotypes.
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Post#18 » by penbeast0 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:46 pm

Dr. J was more a Shawn Marion type in terms of his size/defense skillset with Jordan type creativity with the ball.
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Post#19 » by tkb » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:56 pm

HarlemHeat37 wrote:does my man KG even have an argument RIGHT NOW career-wise, until he wins a title?..


No, not really.

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