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Most useless "superstars"
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:42 pm
by penbeast0
Looking for the least valuable player to ever average one of the following averages (not just due to injuries, must have played significant games during the stretch they averaged their numbers):
Least useful 25 ppg scorer (20 ppg for active player):
Least useful 12 rpg rebounder (10 rpg for active player):
Least useful 10 apg playmaker (8 apg for active player):
Other stats like shotblocking and steals are too peripheral; Manute Bol for example may have been the greatest shotblocker in NBA history but was just not a good defensive player and a zero on the offensive end.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:45 pm
by randomhero423
vince carter.
Re: Most useless "superstars"
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:45 pm
by adjacent2bench
penbeast0 wrote:Looking for the least valuable player to ever average one of the following averages (not just due to injuries, must have played significant games during the stretch they averaged their numbers):
Least useful 25 ppg scorer (20 ppg for active player):
DColeman?
Least useful 12 rpg rebounder (10 rpg for active player):
Least useful 10 apg playmaker (8 apg for active player):
Marbury
Other stats like shotblocking and steals are too peripheral; Manute Bol for example may have been the greatest shotblocker in NBA history but was just not a good defensive player and a zero on the offensive end.
Re: Most useless "superstars"
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:49 pm
by risktaker91
penbeast0 wrote:Looking for the least valuable player to ever average one of the following averages (not just due to injuries, must have played significant games during the stretch they averaged their numbers):
Least useful 25 ppg scorer (20 ppg for active player):
Carter/JJ?
Least useful 12 rpg rebounder (10 rpg for active player):
Z-Bo
Least useful 10 apg playmaker (8 apg for active player):
Jamal Tinsley
Other stats like shotblocking and steals are too peripheral; Manute Bol for example may have been the greatest shotblocker in NBA history but was just not a good defensive player and a zero on the offensive end.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:57 pm
by penbeast0
Coleman? he barely cracked 20 ppg in his best year; 25 is a pretty high mark especially if you ignore ABA numbers. I would guess the most useless would be a low percentage gunner with no defense and no great secondary skill like rebounding, playmaking, or drawing fouls.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:02 pm
by randomhero423
michael redd/VC
zach randolph
marbury
that'd be my guess.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:07 pm
by Silk Wilkes
PTS: VC
RBS: Zebo
AST: Tinsley/Starbury
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:14 pm
by adjacent2bench
I hate VC, but he got the Raptors to the 2nd round once, and also helped the Nets get there. How many times has TMAC done that? Wow you Raptor fans should just let it go.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:17 pm
by randomhero423
i think the discussion is more abotu the stars now..
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:24 pm
by cb4_89
mike james 20 ppg was worthless. We lost all the games he scored 30+ in
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:48 pm
by youngcrev
For this season
Scorer:
Jamal Crawford (though before Knicks fans get mad... look at the rest of list of guys averaging 20 or above)
Rebounder:
Zach Randolph (ouch, another Knick)
Playmaker:
Jamaal Tinsley (easily in comparison to the rest of the list)
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:52 pm
by adjacent2bench
youngcrev wrote:For this season
Scorer:
Jamal Crawford (though before Knicks fans get mad... look at the rest of list of guys averaging 20 or above)
Rebounder:
Zach Randolph (ouch, another Knick)
Playmaker:
Jamaal Tinsley (easily in comparison to the rest of the list)
Who would get mad? We know we suck.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:20 pm
by Nolan
Points: T-Mac
Rebounds: Randolph
Assists: Tinsley
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:10 pm
by hermes
vince/crawford
randolph
tinsley
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:20 pm
by IggyTheBEaST
youngcrev wrote:For this season
Scorer:
Jamal Crawford (though before Knicks fans get mad... look at the rest of list of guys averaging 20 or above)
Rebounder:
Zach Randolph (ouch, another Knick)
Playmaker:
Jamaal Tinsley (easily in comparison to the rest of the list)
Agree with all but Im not sure you can call crawford and tinsley stars
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:00 pm
by Jemini80
Scorer: Crawford, if he isn't considered a star, than TMac, Carter, or Joe Johnson(this season only, every other season he wasn't worthless, his FG% is horrid).
Rebounder: Al Jefferson (who else is going to get the rebound on Minny)
Playmaker Tinsley, if not a star, than Marbury or Nash(so mannyyyy turnovers).
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:02 pm
by Cigamodnalro
Nolan wrote:Points: T-Mac
Rebounds: Randolph
Assists: Tinsley
T-Mac's scoring single handedly won games for the Magic for about four seasons. We wouldn't have won a game without him.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:14 pm
by eyejayem
scorer: Corey Maggette (no matter ho much he scores he doesnt help his team at all)
rebounds: Zach Randolf ( the worst double-double guy in basketball history)
Assist: Brevin Knight ( The most empty assists I have seen, never a starter but great passer but never amounted to wins)
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:51 am
by CreaM
This thread made me realize just how bad the Knicks are.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:10 am
by Red Robot
Purvis Short at Golden State in the mid-80s. He scored a lot because he had the ball a lot.