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Rate these four teams in order from best to worst and why:

Team 1

C- Hakeem Olajuwon/Willis Reed
PF - Moses Malone/Jerry Lucas
SF - Elgin Baylor/Scottie Pippen
SG - Michael Jordan/Earl Monroe
PG - Jerry West/Nate Archibald

Bob McAdoo
Chris Mullin

Team 2

C - Wilt Chamberlain/David Robinson
PF - Bob Pettit/Kevin McHale
SF - Larry Bird/Billy Cunningham
SG - John Havlicek/Sam Jones
PG - Walt Frazier/Isiah Thomas

Dave DeBusschere
Walter Davis

Team 3

C - Bill Russell/Robert Parish
PF - Dave Cowens/Charles Barkley
SF - Julius Erving/James Worthy
SG - George Gervin/Pete Maravich
PG - Magic Johnson/Bob Cousy

Connie Hawkins
Dominique Wilkins

Team 4

C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Wes Unseld
PF - Karl Malone/Elvin Hayes
SF - Rick Barry/Alex English
SG - Clyde Drexler/Dave Bing
PG - Oscar Robertson/John Stockton

Nate Thurmond
Bernard King

1,3,2,4

1
3
2
4

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3 and 1 are close then 2, 4

team 2 is the best defensive team there if you start Robinson and Wilt along with the best defensive guard ever in Clyde.

so with my suggestion

2
1
3
4


4 is the worst i think that is what the consensus will be

ThaRegul8r wrote:Rate these four teams in order from best to worst and why:

Team 1

C- Hakeem Olajuwon/Willis Reed
PF - Moses Malone/Jerry Lucas
SF - Elgin Baylor/Scottie Pippen
SG - Michael Jordan/Earl Monroe
PG - Jerry West/Nate Archibald

Bob McAdoo
Chris Mullin

Team 2

C - Wilt Chamberlain/David Robinson
PF - Bob Pettit/Kevin McHale
SF - Larry Bird/Billy Cunningham
SG - John Havlicek/Sam Jones
PG - Walt Frazier/Isiah Thomas

Dave DeBusschere
Walter Davis

Team 3

C - Bill Russell/Robert Parish
PF - Dave Cowens/Charles Barkley
SF - Julius Erving/James Worthy
SG - George Gervin/Pete Maravich
PG - Magic Johnson/Bob Cousy

Connie Hawkins
Dominique Wilkins

Team 4

C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Wes Unseld
PF - Karl Malone/Elvin Hayes
SF - Rick Barry/Alex English
SG - Clyde Drexler/Dave Bing
PG - Oscar Robertson/John Stockton

Nate Thurmond
Bernard King

Wow @ people voting for Team 1: regardless of its impressive talent and famous names (and I hope your reasoning was a bit deeper than automatic voting for everything connected with MJ, what is sadly quite often here), is selecting starting lineup featuring basically 5 30-ppg scorers really the most fortunate idea in the world? Granted, West proved he can play more of a facilitator's role (though never was pure PG and IMO never would become the one), also Hakeem could concentrate more on defense and rebounding (though again: he wasn't a Russell to became garbage scorer), but still: 3 such dominant (and jealous of their touches) natural-born 1st options as Moses, Baylor and Jordan in one team may be a recipe for disaster, while it certainly doesn't make this squad as great as these names could suggest.
Team 2 has players with better defined roles, is more balanced in terms of offense/defense proportions (both among big men and on the perimeter) and has more suffocating defense - so it's my number one. Team 4 is similarly balanced, but in turn severely lacks perimeter defense, so will be 3rd, after Team 1 (which still is ridiculously talented, even though these talents would interfere with each other). Team 3 compared to others has not enough post offense (only Barkley really counts) compared to perimeter offense (even too much of the latter). But as to perimeter offense: there's too many high-flyers and not even one outstanding long-range shooter (please don't suggest Maravich here - BTW, his intangibles are disadvantage by themselves). Plus not even nearly enough perimeter defense - like No 4 - so Team 3 finishes last for me.

With this many superstar scorers, I think you have to look a bit deeper and seek out the most efficient groupings, best defensive mix, and chemistry issues.

Like Myth, I was shocked that everyone was picking team one because it had the most obvious problems . . . too many primary scorers all of whom (except West and some of the bench guys) post up players who need the ball in their hands.

Teams 3 has some issues with it's poor defensive play at guard which before the 3 point line wouldn't be as big a problem but with modern rules, will hurt them.

So the winner would probably be the one that fits together best of team 2 or team 4 and I would rather have the defensive stoppers on team 2 against this level of competition.

So, 4 -- 2 -- 3 -- 1 (might have taken 1 ahead of 3 but am possibly overreacting to the overrating of this talent heavy/poor fit squad).

penbeast0 wrote:With this many superstar scorers, I think you have to look a bit deeper and seek out the most efficient groupings, best defensive mix, and chemistry issues.

Like Myth, I was shocked that everyone was picking team one because it had the most obvious problems . . . too many primary scorers all of whom (except West and some of the bench guys) post up players who need the ball in their hands.

Teams 3 has some issues with it's poor defensive play at guard which before the 3 point line wouldn't be as big a problem but with modern rules, will hurt them.

So the winner would probably be the one that fits together best of team 2 or team 4 and I would rather have the defensive stoppers on team 2 against this level of competition.

So, 4 -- 2 -- 3 -- 1 (might have taken 1 ahead of 3 but am possibly overreacting to the overrating of this talent heavy/poor fit squad).

I agree that many seem to be reacting to Team 1 having Jordan on it and forgetting how the talent meshs (or fails to mesh), but I would still have to put it second behind Team 3. Too much fire power for any of the other teams to deal with in the long run, except Team 3.

3-1-2-4. The difference between these 4 teams is not that great, IMO.

penbeast0 wrote:So the winner would probably be the one that fits together best of team 2 or team 4 and I would rather have the defensive stoppers on team 2 against this level of competition.

So, 4 -- 2 -- 3 -- 1

Didn't you mean 2-4-3-1?

2-4-1-3