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Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 5:44 am**

which players have been the best defenders for this era? give me a top 5/10..

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:02 am**

Bowen
Artest
Big Ben

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:08 am**

Duncan
Bowen
Artest
Big Ben
Kobe?

edit: damn forgot KG....Kobe is out

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:10 am**

Artest, Wallace, Bowen, Duncan, Garnett

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:32 am**

Wade3Iverson wrote:Duncan
Bowen
Artest
Big Ben
Kobe?

edit: damn forgot KG....Kobe is out

Not kobe...

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:37 am**

if we are going by position
C Duncan
F KG
F Bowen
G Artest
G Kobe

Artest is a G/F so he can be slotted in for the guard position since i didn't think any other guard really deserved it. Duncan is a F/C so he can go to center. Big Ben was a system player, much like Nash.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 10:15 am**

Sheed deserves a mention

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:22 am**

Artest, Ben Wallace, Bowen, Duncan, Garnett, Rasheed Wallace, baron davis, Kobe, kirk......

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:03 pm**

baron davis? wtf?

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:26 pm**

^career 2.30 stl per game, he also plays great man-to-man pressure defense.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:29 pm**

steals =/= defense. Iverson led the league in steals a couple years ago iirc

and wtf is pressure defense

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:45 pm**

^baron is a lockdown defender, who cause havoc for opposing guards, fighting through picks and forcing turnovers, Iverson doesn't exactly intimidate on defense.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:52 pm**

Except for the fact that Baron ISN'T a lockdown defender. Baron is a pretty crap defender really, are you looking at the same guy I am?

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:03 pm**

ss_maverick wrote:Except for the fact that Baron ISN'T a lockdown defender. Baron is a pretty crap defender really, are you looking at the same guy I am?

ssmaverick, let's agree to disagree on this one-we seem to be going around in circles.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:42 pm**

yeah ok i guess.

first i've ever heard of anyone calling Baron a good defender though

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 2:08 pm**

Well, I don't watch mutch Warriors game, but Baron is not a "pretty crap defender".When he cares, he can be quite good.But calling him one of the top defenders of the 2000s?I would not go that far.

On the topic, well, names like Kobe, KG, Bowen, Duncan, Wallace, Camby, Artest obviously come to mind.
How was Eddie Jones' defense in the start of the decade?Could he make the list?
Mutombo is still up there, IMO, especially considering he was IIRC DPOY back in 2001.
Also would like to add guys like Battier, Prince, Rick Fox.Payton was still quite good as a defender, Kidd also.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 2:23 pm**

Marion should be considered here too. He gets a ton of steals, blocks and defensive rebounds, and he can defend four positions. 82games.com ranked him as the best defensive player in the league last year using a combination of on/off numbers and box score stats.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 4:23 pm**

a-rod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

ssmaverick, let's agree to disagree on this one-we seem to be going around in circles.

Baron doesn't deserve to be there sorry.

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 5:51 pm**

Kobe Bryant is the Defensive Player of the Decade

Posted: **Sun Mar 2, 2008 5:56 pm**

ss_maverick wrote:yeah ok i guess.

first i've ever heard of anyone calling Baron a good defender though

really? he doesn't deserve to be on this list but baron davis is a VERY good defender. when he wants to be (3-4 times a yr) he's downright elite.

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