Will CB4 and Drea Bargnani be successful in the same team?

raptor21_85 · Post #1 » by **raptor21_85** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:36 am

Some games that Chris Bosh has been absent have been good games for Andrea in the PF position, and scores more

but...

The Raptors are "forcing" Andrea to play the C in the starting line-up when CB4 is on the court, Andrea has been very inconsistent this season, but when he has confidence, he plays a lot better

what do you guys think bout these bigs?? and what do you recommend?? do you agree on Andrea going to Trainning camp this summer?

Discuss :wink:

Kabookalu · Post #2 » by **Kabookalu** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:42 am

Naturally I'm a fan of the team and hope that everyone on it does well and that all our wildest expectations would come true, but I'm starting to think trading Bargnani would be a better decision in order to get a true center. I'm not saying Bargnani is a bad player, but Toronto is just not the team for him. Though I'm still holding complete judgment until after this summer. He's going to be attending Pete Newell's big man camp, and if he learns anything in there and continues to work hard on the techniques he was taught, then I would like to keep him. He's fortunate to have Delfino and Moon on this team, who are great rebounders on the wing and do a pretty good job of covering up this part of Bargnani's game, but he still needs to be a good reobunder himself and his help defense is still lack luster.

Silk Wilkes · Post #3 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:00 am

The thing about Bargs is, last game he played a career high in minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

360 · Post #4 » by **360** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:07 am

Just call him Bosh. CB4 does not have a ring to it.

Bballer2306 · Post #5 » by **Bballer2306** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:02 pm

Youngblood wrote:The thing about Bargs is, last game he played a career high in minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Your point being? Oh yes thats right, you have no point because you did not even watch the game.

Bargs was not even playing as a big man, his job was to shoot the ball and it was Moon and Rasho who were pinching all of the rebounds from Bargs.

yungal07 · Post #6 » by **yungal07** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:20 pm

Bballer2306 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Your point being? Oh yes thats right, you have no point because you did not even watch the game.

Bargs was not even playing as a big man, his job was to shoot the ball and it was Moon and Rasho who were pinching all of the rebounds from Bargs.

Are you guys going to continue to make excuses for Bargnani's awful rebounding abilities? I watched that game dude. The Wizards outrebounded the Raptors pretty badly and your power forward grabbed 4 rebounds. No excuse for that at all, anyway you slice it.

T-Spot · Post #7 » by **T-Spot** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:24 pm

yungal07 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Are you guys going to continue to make excuses for Bargnani's awful rebounding abilities? I watched that game dude. The Wizards outrebounded the Raptors pretty badly and your power forward grabbed 4 rebounds. No excuse for that at all, anyway you slice it.

...the Wiz out rebounded the Raps on defensive boards because the Raps shot 39%. The Raps OUTREBOUNDED the Wiz on the offensive boards.

You did not watch close enough apparently. Our power foward grabbed 4 boards but you guys gave up more offensive rebounds. Anyway you slice it.

Post #8 » by **nate33** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:47 pm

Both Bargnani and Bosh are finesse players. I'll give lots of credit to Bosh for managing to grab 10 boards per 40 despite his light frame, but the fact remains that he isn't strong enough to wear guys down physically. Bargnani is not an ideal pairing for him.

Toronto would be a much better team if they could manage to trade Bargnani for a player of similar caliber but more of a physical, defensive presence. Something like Bargnani for Horford would make sense for them (though it doesn't make sense for Atlanta for similar reasons).

hermes · Post #9 » by **hermes** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:53 pm

i agree with nate, both aren't physical players
and CB4 isn't a good nickname for bosh

Silk Wilkes · Post #10 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 9:27 pm

Bballer2306 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Your point being? Oh yes thats right, you have no point because you did not even watch the game.

Bargs was not even playing as a big man, his job was to shoot the ball and it was Moon and Rasho who were pinching all of the rebounds from Bargs.

What a joke. Clearly I watched the game but I also watch games not including Toronto. If you want to make that illogical argument then you've obviously never seen small forwards like Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom, Gerald Wallace or Tayshaun Prince play.