Shaq and Kobe vs. Jordan and Pippen
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:15 pm
Which duo was better?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:17 pm
Kobe Bryant and Shaq are better.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:38 pm
Jordan and Pippen, easily...
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:52 pm
Jordan and Pippen played from 1988-1998 together and won 6 titles in 10 years. And that's including the 1995 season.
Kobe and Shaq played from 1997-2004 together and won 3 titles in 8 years.
Kobe and Shaq played from 1997-2004 together and won 3 titles in 8 years.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:01 pm
Jordan and Pippen
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:05 pm
Jordan and Pippen easily....
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:05 pm
Jordan
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:12 pm
Kobe > jordan
Shaq > Pippen
Shaq > Pippen
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:23 pm
LeRydee23 wrote:Kobe > jordan
Shaq > Pippen
Kobe has the talent to be as good as MJ, but he will fall short simply because he won't have the accolades that MJ has. Even if you were to say they were equal in talent, MJ will always have him beat because he would have him in all the important accolades and categories
MVP's - Jordan = 5; Kobe = 0 (right now)
Titles - Jordan = 6 (as the #1 Option); Kobe = 3 (as the #2 Option)
Finals MVP's - Jordan = 6; Kobe = 0 (right now)
DPOY - Jordan = 1; Kobe = 0
Scoring Titles - Jordan = 10; Kobe = 2
Career PPG - Jordan = 30.1 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 24.9
Playoffs PPG - Jordan = 33.4 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 23.3
Playoff Points - Jordan = 5987 - Most Ever Points (179 games); Kobe = 3053 (131 games)
FG% - Jordan - 50% Career; Kobe = 45% Career Thus Far
Playoff FG% - Jordan = 49% Career; Kobe = 44% Career Thus Far
PER (Offensive and Defensive Rating) - Jordan Career = 27.91 (highest ever); Kobe = 23.59
Steals - Jordan = 2.3 SPG Career (with 3 Steals Titles); Kobe = 1.5 SPG
Blocks - Jordan = 0.8 BPG Career (most blocks ever for a guard in two seasons); Kobe = 0.6
There is no argument here until Kobe can close the gap in the main categories. You can possibly say that Kobe has as much talent as MJ, but no where is he near to being as good or better.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:29 pm
i dont think he was serious..and if were gonna compare the duos..its probably more like Jordan vs. Shaq and Pippen vs. Kobe.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:52 pm
jordan and pippen
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:07 pm
JordansBulls wrote:LeRydee23 wrote:Kobe > jordan
Shaq > Pippen
Kobe has the talent to be as good as MJ, but he will fall short simply because he won't have the accolades that MJ has. Even if you were to say they were equal in talent, MJ will always have him beat because he would have him in all the important accolades and categories
MVP's - Jordan = 5; Kobe = 0 (right now)
Titles - Jordan = 6 (as the #1 Option); Kobe = 3 (as the #2 Option)
Finals MVP's - Jordan = 6; Kobe = 0 (right now)
DPOY - Jordan = 1; Kobe = 0
Scoring Titles - Jordan = 10; Kobe = 2
Career PPG - Jordan = 30.1 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 24.9
Playoffs PPG - Jordan = 33.4 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 23.3
Playoff Points - Jordan = 5987 - Most Ever Points (179 games); Kobe = 3053 (131 games)
FG% - Jordan - 50% Career; Kobe = 45% Career Thus Far
Playoff FG% - Jordan = 49% Career; Kobe = 44% Career Thus Far
PER (Offensive and Defensive Rating) - Jordan Career = 27.91 (highest ever); Kobe = 23.59
Steals - Jordan = 2.3 SPG Career (with 3 Steals Titles); Kobe = 1.5 SPG
Blocks - Jordan = 0.8 BPG Career (most blocks ever for a guard in two seasons); Kobe = 0.6
There is no argument here until Kobe can close the gap in the main categories. You can possibly say that Kobe has as much talent as MJ, but no where is he near to being as good or better.
hooah, i was just kidding there. just pulling a kobe homer response there.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:23 pm
Jordan and Pippen 
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:48 pm
prime shaq + prime kobe
beats
prime jordan + prime pipen
Don't confuse yourself kobe is actually very close to michael jordan maybe not in accomplishments but in actual ability hes right there (undeniable fact). Shaq is a MUCH MUCH more dominate player then pip. Simply put i think jordan has an extremely slight edge on kobe and shaq has a substantial lead on scottie. This is coming from a long time bulls fan.
beats
prime jordan + prime pipen
Don't confuse yourself kobe is actually very close to michael jordan maybe not in accomplishments but in actual ability hes right there (undeniable fact). Shaq is a MUCH MUCH more dominate player then pip. Simply put i think jordan has an extremely slight edge on kobe and shaq has a substantial lead on scottie. This is coming from a long time bulls fan.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:18 pm
Sanjan wrote:prime shaq + prime kobe
beats
prime jordan + prime pipen
Don't confuse yourself kobe is actually very close to michael jordan maybe not in accomplishments but in actual ability hes right there (undeniable fact). Shaq is a MUCH MUCH more dominate player then pip. Simply put i think jordan has an extremely slight edge on kobe and shaq has a substantial lead on scottie. This is coming from a long time bulls fan.
Jordan beats out Shaq and Kobe beats out Pippen and the difference between those are the same. However 6 titles in 10 years is better than 3 titles in 8 years.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:21 pm
Jordan + Pippen had better chemistry than Kobe + Shaq. So I will go with His Airness.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:32 pm
JordansBulls wrote:LeRydee23 wrote:Kobe > jordan
Shaq > Pippen
Kobe has the talent to be as good as MJ, but he will fall short simply because he won't have the accolades that MJ has. Even if you were to say they were equal in talent, MJ will always have him beat because he would have him in all the important accolades and categories
MVP's - Jordan = 5; Kobe = 0 (right now)
Titles - Jordan = 6 (as the #1 Option); Kobe = 3 (as the #2 Option)
Finals MVP's - Jordan = 6; Kobe = 0 (right now)
DPOY - Jordan = 1; Kobe = 0
Scoring Titles - Jordan = 10; Kobe = 2
Career PPG - Jordan = 30.1 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 24.9
Playoffs PPG - Jordan = 33.4 (Highest Ever); Kobe = 23.3
Playoff Points - Jordan = 5987 - Most Ever Points (179 games); Kobe = 3053 (131 games)
FG% - Jordan - 50% Career; Kobe = 45% Career Thus Far
Playoff FG% - Jordan = 49% Career; Kobe = 44% Career Thus Far
PER (Offensive and Defensive Rating) - Jordan Career = 27.91 (highest ever); Kobe = 23.59
Steals - Jordan = 2.3 SPG Career (with 3 Steals Titles); Kobe = 1.5 SPG
Blocks - Jordan = 0.8 BPG Career (most blocks ever for a guard in two seasons); Kobe = 0.6
There is no argument here until Kobe can close the gap in the main categories. You can possibly say that Kobe has as much talent as MJ, but no where is he near to being as good or better.
Eh, a little insecure? It was an obvious joke.
Anyways, if we're talking primes, meaning Shaq (then), and Kobe (now), I'll take the Shaq/Kobe duo.
If we're talking about them as a duo when they played together, MJ and PIP of course.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:07 am
Jordan and Pippen. They were able to play together and didn't do stupid ish in a pissing contest about whose team it was. Jordan and Pippen were allowed to play out and win all the titles they could together while Shaq and Kobe were broken up because they couldn't get along.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:28 am
JordansBulls wrote:
Kobe has the talent to be as good as MJ, but he will fall short simply because he won't have the accolades that MJ has. Even if you were to say they were equal in talent, MJ will always have him beat because he would have him in all the important accolades and categories
what do you mean by that? Jordan was the stronger, quicker, and more explosive of the 2 and had bigger hands and lateral quickness.
I think you confused Kobe with Vince Carter.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:43 am
It depends on who they are surrounded by.
If they have guys that can shoot, then I'll take Shaq and Kobe any day of the week.
If they have guys that can shoot, then I'll take Shaq and Kobe any day of the week.