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How many games would an all defense team win?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:41 am
by T-Mac for MVP
Ex say your starting 5 is
M. Camby
K. Brown
S. Battier
B. Bowen
and um..... C. Billups?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:44 am
by OmniDEN
Why is Kwame Brown on that team?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:46 am
by T-Mac for MVP
Kwame is a lock down post defender.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:02 am
by hermes

lock down?
i don't think he's quit that good
they'd be better than the heat
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:10 am
by OmniDEN
T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.
Um.
No.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:12 am
by Jemini80
considering this was the NBA All-defensive first team from last year
C- Camby
F- Duncan
F- Bowen
G- Bell
G- Kobe
pretty sure they would win at least 65 games. A team with 2 of the three best players in the league (I think Kobe and Duncan are the two best, but i will do this to not turn this into a LBJ spamfest), would basically guarantee 50 wins, plus the amazing role players around them. This team would easily win the NBA Finals.
even the all-defensive 2nd team from last year is a nasty team (ignoring that Ben Wallace didn't play good enough defense to be on there last year)
C- Ben Wallace
F- KG
F-Prince
G- Kirk
G- Kidd
that team would probably only get 50-55 wins though.
assuming this year's all defensive team will look like
C- Camby
F- KG
F- Bowens/Duncan/Artest/Smith
G- Kobe
G- Paul
this team would win 65 games at the least.
Re: How many games would an all defense team win?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:36 am
by Patterns
T-Mac for MVP wrote:Ex say your starting 5 is
M. Camby
K. Brown
S. Battier
B. Bowen
and um..... C. Billups?
35 wins.
You see how even the Spurs struggle on offense sometimes despite their godly defense even with Duncan and Ginobili and Parker.
That team would be pretty damn ugly on offense. The only capable offensive player is Billups.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:57 am
by AgEnT50
T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.

Since when?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:21 am
by Kabookalu
T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.
True that...if you meant he's really good at locking himself down in the post.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:41 pm
by penbeast0
Jemini80 wrote:considering this was the NBA All-defensive first team from last year
C- Camby
F- Duncan
F- Bowen
G- Bell
G- Kobe
Put Kirk Hinrich in there instead of Kobe to weaken the offense and give this team a point and you still have a team that competes for the NBA title despite having no real offensive threat other than Duncan.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:58 pm
by The_Believer
You need to have SJax in there and take Bell out. IMO Bell's defense is grossly overrated. Also, Baron's a VERY underrated clutch/man defender, so he could be subbed in in the clutch.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:31 pm
by a-rod
it depends on the conference....
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:48 pm
by Cammo101
As said by others, Kwame on that is a joke. IMO the all defensive team is...
Camby
Duncan
Artest
Battier
Bowen
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:57 pm
by Basileus777
Cammo101 wrote:As said by others, Kwame on that is a joke. IMO the all defensive team is...
Camby
Duncan
Artest
Battier
Bowen
Well that team would be awful on offense. They have no playmakers, no one who can penetrate, no one who can throw an entry pass to Duncan, and no closer. Duncan is still a great player, but I don't think he is capable of consistently dominating on offense anymore, at least in the regular season. This team wouldn't make the playoffs in the West.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:43 pm
by Red Robot
An all defense, no offense team would really struggle.
Przybilla
Jason Collins
Battier
Hassell
Duhon
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:56 am
by og15
I think putting Duncan there destroys the whole point of them being an All-Defense team. Common, how in the world do you make a bad team by allowing Duncan to have Camby at C, and some perimeter guys who can shoot and defend?
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:19 pm
by penbeast0
Most teams have at least one star, Duncan is the ALL-PRO most commonly lauded for defense rather than offense. Doesn't seem reasonale to have a team of non-starters or marginal starters and ask how they would compete.
Maybe use the following players better known for defense than scoring from the last two years team: Bell, Bowen, Camby, Hinrich, Kidd, Prince, Wallace, Artest, and Kirilenko (8 man rotation . . . Eliminate one of the four SFs . . . Artest is the most offensive)
Camby Wallace
Kirilenko
Prince Bowen
Hinrich Bell
Kidd
Still a serious contender, top 8 teams in the league but not top 5
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:23 pm
by ITK9
if we are talking about
snow
bell
bowen
kwame brown
camby
...no they won't win more than 20 games
if we are talking about
bilups
kobe
g wallace
duncan
ben wallace
they win it all
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:25 am
by kandiking
yesterday with 5 minutes left and the grizzlies up 8 iavaronni put in kwame. within 80 secs al jefferson had put up 7 points.