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Who are the most overrated defenders, and the worst to make an all nba d first team?
Worst to make D first team- Larry Hughes
Overrated - (among casual fans) Amare because casual fans see his power blocks and think he's a great defender. Among all people, IMO Bell's defense is kinda overrated.

Well not alot of players play D so usually the ones that are called good defenders usually are.

If I had to pick I think Raja Bell is overrated, Tony Parker, Billups, and of course Larry Hughes.

Currently-
Jason Kidd. He struggles to play average D at times. He's too slow to stay in front of other PGs now.

Raja Bell.

Jason Kidd, Baron Davis, Shawn Marion.

Yes, Amare defense is horrible.. Yet people still think he's a good defender because of his highlight blocks..

People may disagree with me, but I think Bruce Bowen is over-rated as well. He's not a bad defender, but he's not the defender everyone makes him out to be. The only reason he looks so good is because his "defense" is usually made up of grabs and trips and other sorts of stuff that never gets called.

NO-KG-AI wrote:Jason Kidd, Baron Davis, Shawn Marion.

Can you elaborate on how the latter two are overrated? Kidd, yes, I agree.

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Can you elaborate on how the latter two are overrated? Kidd, yes, I agree.

Baron doesn't bring the intensity enough, should be consistently the best PG defender in the league, with versatility to guard 2's and even some 3's at all time, but he has mental lapses, or perhaps laziness, and isn't always as good as he can be. He will let himself get lit up a lot, and sometimes will turn it on and make key stops, but sometimes at that point, it is too late. I think people focus too much on what he can be, and not what he is.

As for Marion, some advocate him as a DPOY level player, when he can't anchor a D, and he really doesn't guard any position particularly well, and was torched by any star he was put on. but hey, he got some steals and blocks right?

I also think TD is overrated when guarding the PF spot, though his ability to anchor a team more than makes up for it.

I have never seen anyone call Amare a good defender.

camby dpoy last season, where was he against the spurs in the playoffs first round

UDRIH14 wrote:camby dpoy last season, where was he against the spurs in the playoffs first round

another good call.

Camby and AK are both overrated man defenders... help defenders they are great but man they both should be WAY better that they are.

^^actually, both lack bulk and strength, and guys can get underneath them, move them off the blocks, or use strength to drive pass them.

You are right.

Stephen Jackson is WAY overrated ... for his average defense and his poor overall play!

amare is not an overated defender.everybody knows he is a very poor defender so he can't be considered overated.

and i really can't see such a great D in kobe's game.maybe he doesn't play hard everytime but i don't think he deserve all defense team consideration.

Bruce Bowen this season. He's been a great defender throughout his career, but he seems a step slow now.

I didn't agree with Raja Bell making 1st team, but he was a decent defender. This year all the injuries has taken a little away from his defense.

Larry Hughes making 1st team was horrible.

ITK9 wrote:and i really can't see such a great D in kobe's game.maybe he doesn't play hard everytime but i don't think he deserve all defense team consideration.

Last year was a reputation vote, but he's been very good this season. At least his impact on the Laker defense is indisputable this season.

raja bell

Kobe is a good defender, but it gets overrated.

Kobe to all-defense first team, as Derek Jeter is to the Gold Glove.

The are each given their award because of their name power.