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David West or Andrew Bynum?

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 8:17 pm
by IggyTheBEaST
David West or Andrew Bynum?

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:54 pm
by a-rod
Andrew Bynum is one of the most fundamentally sound big man offensively and defensively in The NBA.

I take Bynum.

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:35 pm
by Texas Longhorns
Right now?

David West

The future, I'd probably take Bynum because he will be a great player. Expecially because he has Abdul-Jabbar as his mentor, and he's getting a lot of experience from him.

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:42 pm
by Gerald3Wallace
right now? easily david west

int he future? easily bynum

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:37 pm
by farzi
Right now West easily.

However, Bynum is about 7 years younger, so if I get to pick either of them to add to a team I take Bynum

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:39 pm
by Derekman
West now, Bynum future.

All though, if Bynum didn;t get injured, the right now would be a lot harder to chose.

Posted: Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:39 pm
by farzi
Derekman wrote:West now, Bynum future.

All though, if Bynum didn;t get injured, the right now would be a lot harder to chose.


Idk, 20 and 9 as compared to 13 10

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:50 am
by FlawlessVictory

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Pace Adjusted Per 40
        FGA   FG%   FT%   REB   AST  STL  BLK  TOV  PTS   PER
Bynum   11.4  63.6  69.5  13.6  2.3  0.4  2.8  2.0  17.5  22.6
 West   18.7  47.5  84.6  9.8   2.5  0.9  1.4  2.4  22.2  19.7


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Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:55 am
by That Nicka
farzi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Idk, 20 and 9 as compared to 13 10


to be fair, Bynum's production was going up with each week... and he started the season coming off the bench

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:56 am
by FlawlessVictory
^^To be even more fair, you would equalize minutes and adjust for the Hornets slow pace and the Lakers' faster one.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:56 am
by ubernathan
Bynum now. It would be harder to find a good center than a good power foward.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:22 am
by Patterns
Bynum now and future easily...

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:27 am
by theoilslick
FlawlessVictory wrote:

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Pace Adjusted Per 40
        FGA   FG%   FT%   REB   AST  STL  BLK  TOV  PTS   PER
Bynum   11.4  63.6  69.5  13.6  2.3  0.4  2.8  2.0  17.5  22.6
 West   18.7  47.5  84.6  9.8   2.5  0.9  1.4  2.4  22.2  19.7


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Hmmm, well I haven't watched enough of West to really have a comprehensive idea of what he is doing. From highlights it always seems West gets a lot of easy feeds from Paul who draws the post players and tosses it up to West. If Bynum could stay in the high 50% FG range while scoring 20 next year I'd go with him.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:32 am
by Patterns
West's efficiency in 37.7 minutes: 21.83
Bynum's efficiency in 28.8 minutes: 21.86

Who's more dominant? Who's the 7'1 center?

Pretty easy choice for me.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:32 am
by CBS7
Bynum's split stats:

11.4/10.7/1.3/1.5, 59.3% in November
13.9/9.1/1.8/2.7 66.1% in December
17.3/12.2/2.7/2.3 70.0% in January

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:39 am
by Patterns
CBS7 wrote:Bynum's split stats:

11.4/10.7/1.3/1.5, 59.3% in November
13.9/9.1/1.8/2.7 66.1% in December
17.3/12.2/2.7/2.3 70.0% in January

The last 5 games Bynum played made him seem like he was the best Center in the NBA.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:48 am
by tsherkin
I have to go with Bynum.

David West is underrated and a very good player; he scores well with or without Paul, had about 20 feet of range on that J, good post up skills, decent face-up skills, good mobility, can dribble a bit on the break, good passer... Solid but unspectacular rebounder.

But Bynum's 7'1, 280, way more efficient, a way better rebounder and improving pretty much game-by-game on offense as he gets more comfortable and gets more involved in the offense. He's also younger, IIRC.

I mean, I don't see a compelling argument for West, despite the fact that he's a very, very good player.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:50 am
by G35
I take Bynum just because of his defensive impact. Having that anchor does so much for the entire team......

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:10 am
by dockingsched
farzi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Idk, 20 and 9 as compared to 13 10


bynum wasn't a 13/10 player when he got hurt. those were his season avg's, but as you'd expect from a 20 yr old, he was improving every week, every month.

just look at his last 15 games:

32.6mpg, 16.4ppg, 10.7 rpg, 2.3bpg


so u can call him a 13/10 player but thats really ignoring the improvements of a young player and the impact he was having.

Posted: Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:43 am
by FlawlessVictory
theoilslick wrote:Hmmm, well I haven't watched enough of West to really have a comprehensive idea of what he is doing. From highlights it always seems West gets a lot of easy feeds from Paul who draws the post players and tosses it up to West. If Bynum could stay in the high 50% FG range while scoring 20 next year I'd go with him.


West is a solid face-up post player from the mid-wing and mid-post. He can take advantage of Paul's penetration when his man doubles down to help on CP3 drives. He hustles and has a little back to the basket game though he is much superior when in triple threat.

As far as getting spoon fed, West has 58% of his passes assisted. Bynum, on the other hand, has 56% of his buckets assisted. The difference, however, is that West benefits less from teammate creation on the inside as he has 51% of his inside shots assisted. Bynum receives assists on 58% of his inside attempts.

In my opinion, Bynum could easily score more than West if the Lakers simply gave him the touches necessary to do so. If the Lakers gave Bynum the same amount of shots as West per 40 minutes, Bynum would get an additional 7.3 shots. He'd only need to shoot 32.2% on these shots to score more than West. Considering that is LESS than his jump shot %, it is more than feasible that Bynum could easily reach that %, if not much higher. Bynum has actually shot 0.2% higher than West on "close" shots (non-dunks in the paint) and has less % of his close shots assisted than West. Again, further proof he could have scored more if he was on a team that needed it.