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Hedo Turkoglu (now) vs. Peja Stojakovic (Kings)

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:50 am
by kookie_819
1) Who has more talent?
2) Who do you want for your team?

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:09 am
by Cammo101
Turk is the more talented and can do more things. But, Peja was an MVP candidate in his prime and even though I love Turk, I can not yet put him up with Peja in his prime. Though I think it is kind of close.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:06 am
by Joseph17
It's really close.
I guess Turk is more talented because he's more athletic and versatile. He can do a lot more than just shoot.
I would rather have Turk on my team because he's a guy that can close out games and hit big shots.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:30 am
by Texas Longhorns
It's close, but I would go with Peja with the Kings. Peja was in his prime, and he was the greatest shooter I had ever seen along with Reggie Miller. Obviously Reggie had fallen because of his age, but he is still my number 1 all time best 3 point shooter. Reggie followed by Ray Allen and then Peja. I would take Peja because he took his team to the West finals, I don't think Hedo can take the Magic to the East finals.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:47 am
by sackings916
Hedo is the more all around player, Peja was a notch above Hedo as far as shooting/scoring. But Peja had most of his shots created for him within the Kings offense, while Hedo is a playmaker and can create for himself and his teammates off the dribble. Peja's FG% was amazing when you took into account how much of his shots were 3s/outside shots, he was very efficient. It would depend on team needs for who to pick on your team, Peja needs playmakers around him while Hedo doesn't, but with playmakers Peja is a very special and unique talent.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:49 am
by PDXKnight
I would take Peja in his prime over Hedo. Though Turkoglu's having an amazing season this year, Stojakovic played a major role in taking his team to the WCF and nearly beating the lakers to the finals. I'll have to see Turkoglu have some playoff success before I can place him in the same category as Peja.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:49 am
by sackings916
Texas Longhorns wrote:It's close, but I would go with Peja with the Kings. Peja was in his prime, and he was the greatest shooter I had ever seen along with Reggie Miller. Obviously Reggie had fallen because of his age, but he is still my number 1 all time best 3 point shooter. Reggie followed by Ray Allen and then Peja. I would take Peja because he took his team to the West finals, I don't think Hedo can take the Magic to the East finals.



Oden2 wrote:Stojakovic played a major role in taking his team to the WCF and nearly beating the lakers to the finals. I'll have to see Turkoglu have some playoff success before I can place him in the same category as Peja.



Peja was out for most of that playoff run, so you can't credit him with the Kings making it to the WCF. If healthy/prime Peja was there that year, Kings would have won the title that year pretty easily IMO.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:20 am
by Malinhion
This comparison turns on how hard Hedo chokes in the playoffs.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:21 pm
by Cammo101
Malinhion wrote:This comparison turns on how hard Hedo chokes in the playoffs.


Then Hedo is the winner, because Toronto will have no answers for him. He will kill Bargnani or any other big off the dribble. Moon will have no chance either. Toronto's only chance is to put Parker on him, which will cause some nice mismatches for Orlando.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:47 pm
by Duiz
Peja was a killer... but Hedo is more rounded.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:32 am
by BirdIsDaKing
LOL I always thought when Hedo was on the kings he was a poor mans version of PEJA anyways....I remember them playing together, Hedo was a good bench player back then.

But comon now, even if Hedo is having a breakout season , he is not better than Peja in his prime.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:00 am
by Joseph17
BirdIsDaKing wrote:LOL I always thought when Hedo was on the kings he was a poor mans version of PEJA anyways....I remember them playing together, Hedo was a good bench player back then.

But comon now, even if Hedo is having a breakout season , he is not better than Peja in his prime.

Not at all. They used him like a poor man's Peja but that's not his game at all. SVG was the first coach that used him properly.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:41 am
by parso15
BirdIsDaKing wrote:LOL I always thought when Hedo was on the kings he was a poor mans version of PEJA anyways....I remember them playing together, Hedo was a good bench player back then.

But comon now, even if Hedo is having a breakout season , he is not better than Peja in his prime.


Thats not fair at all... if you don't see the differences of their plays then there is not much sense in debating with you but I will try anyway... as some folks did point out Pedja is pure shooter who needs teammates that set him up (he has great off the ball movement skills & instinct)... Hedo on the other hand is a good shooter who can play the point forward spot & create for others.

Pedja had 1 season where he scored 24 points... in others he was a 20 ppg scorer. Right now I would say he is ahead but if Hedo continues with his 20/6/5 for 1 more season my vote will go Hedo.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:12 am
by One of Shemps Kids
This is not even close. A few years back Peja was averaging 26ppg and at mid-season was the top MVP candidate. Call me when Hedo can do anything close to what Peja did, and for more than one season.


Taking nothing away from Turk, I love the guy, he's one of my favourite players, but it always peeves me when people have a short memory, or exaggerate the abilities of players of past generations.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:52 pm
by parso15
One of Shemps Kids wrote:This is not even close. A few years back Peja was averaging 26ppg and at mid-season was the top MVP candidate. Call me when Hedo can do anything close to what Peja did, and for more than one season.


We are not speaking about half a season or something... Pedja was a 20-21 ppg guy for the Kings & he also avraged 5-6 reb & 2 assits.

Hedo is averaging close to 20 ppg with 6 reb & 5 assists... for me his stat line is more impressive however as I said earliler he needs to do it for longer than a season... next year he will be ahead I guess since I expect him to average 21/6/6... but only time will tell I guess.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:19 pm
by El Turco
hedo is more versatile and talented player but i cant put him in the same class as Peja s prime, yet.

that being said i like him on my team due to his clutchness.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:18 pm
by Cammo101
One of Shemps Kids wrote:This is not even close. A few years back Peja was averaging 26ppg and at mid-season was the top MVP candidate. Call me when Hedo can do anything close to what Peja did, and for more than one season.


Taking nothing away from Turk, I love the guy, he's one of my favourite players, but it always peeves me when people have a short memory, or exaggerate the abilities of players of past generations.


Consider this your call...

Peja's best year: 24.2ppg., 6.2rpg., 2.1 apg.

Hedo this year: 19.5ppg., 5.5rpg., 5 apg.

Those numbers are close in and of themselves, but keep in mind Peja was only over 21ppg. one other time in his career. His average numbers in his prime look pretty much like Hedo's numbers this year minus about 3 assists a game.

That said, Peja in his prime was still better, but not by much.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:03 am
by kobe#8
Peja was killin the opponent with his shot thats it, but Hedo is the real baller i take him Turkiyee..

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:20 am
by Young_Star11
Magic in 08 take Turk for sure.

Peja 03-04 was nasty though

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:47 am
by trbank
Turkey lost a few games against Serbia because Hedo was trying to do too much against Peja. They have a rivalry.