Elton Brand or Josh Smith?
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Elton Brand or Josh Smith?
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Elton Brand or Josh Smith?
Who would you rather have?
Brand
Height: 6' 8"
Weight: 250 lbs.
Age: 29
Season: 17.6 ppg / 8.0 rpg / 2.0 apg / 1.9 bpg / 0.4 spg / 46% FGs / No 3pt attempts / 79% FTs
Career: 20.3 ppg / 10.2 rpg / 2.7 apg / 2.1 bpg / 0.9 spg / 51% FGs / 15% 3pts / 74% FTs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/elton_brand/
Smith
Height: 6' 9"
Weight: 235 lbs.
Age: 22
Season: 17.2 ppg / 8.2 rpg / 3.4 apg / 2.8 bpg / 1.5 spg / 46% FGs / 25% 3pts / 71% FTs
Career: 13.6 ppg / 7.4 rpg / 2.7 apg / 2.5 bpg / 1.1 spg / 45% FGs / 26% 3pts / 70% FTs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_smith/
Brand
Height: 6' 8"
Weight: 250 lbs.
Age: 29
Season: 17.6 ppg / 8.0 rpg / 2.0 apg / 1.9 bpg / 0.4 spg / 46% FGs / No 3pt attempts / 79% FTs
Career: 20.3 ppg / 10.2 rpg / 2.7 apg / 2.1 bpg / 0.9 spg / 51% FGs / 15% 3pts / 74% FTs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/elton_brand/
Smith
Height: 6' 9"
Weight: 235 lbs.
Age: 22
Season: 17.2 ppg / 8.2 rpg / 3.4 apg / 2.8 bpg / 1.5 spg / 46% FGs / 25% 3pts / 71% FTs
Career: 13.6 ppg / 7.4 rpg / 2.7 apg / 2.5 bpg / 1.1 spg / 45% FGs / 26% 3pts / 70% FTs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_smith/
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Who would I rather have on my team in perpetuity or for a season/game?
I voted Brand because as of today he is definitely better as a player but if I were a GM and got to choose one of them for my new team I'd take Smith just because he will be at least as productive as he is today for a little while longer whereas Brand is a little more of a question mark (although its possible he plays at a high level for a while longer).
Smith's upside is certainly intriguing too.
I voted Brand because as of today he is definitely better as a player but if I were a GM and got to choose one of them for my new team I'd take Smith just because he will be at least as productive as he is today for a little while longer whereas Brand is a little more of a question mark (although its possible he plays at a high level for a while longer).
Smith's upside is certainly intriguing too.
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This is a silly comparison. A healthy Brand is one of the best players in the league. There's only 2 or 3 PFs that you can say are better.
Josh Smith's season statisically put him in a class alone with DRob and Hakeem and he put up those numbers at 22. He has potential to be great, but he has a lot to learn.
Josh Smith's season statisically put him in a class alone with DRob and Hakeem and he put up those numbers at 22. He has potential to be great, but he has a lot to learn.
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gswhoops wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
There was an interesting debate on the Trade Value threads between Smith and Brand, and I thought I'd bring it here.
I personally voted Brand so I see where everyone is coming from, but I thought it was an interesting argument.
Big difference between a player's ability and his trade value.
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Wow, I am shocked that this thread is so one-sided.
I disagree that age (29 against 22) is the only factor in favor of Smith. Josh is a superior shotblocker and runs the court better. Then, you figure health is a concern, with Josh fit as a fiddle, and Brand coming off of nearly a season's worth of injury. Finally, MONEY is a factor; while both may be max contract players after this summer, Josh's contract can only be around $12mil per season, while Brand's could be $20mil or more.
For age, athleticism, health and money, I choose Smith.
I disagree that age (29 against 22) is the only factor in favor of Smith. Josh is a superior shotblocker and runs the court better. Then, you figure health is a concern, with Josh fit as a fiddle, and Brand coming off of nearly a season's worth of injury. Finally, MONEY is a factor; while both may be max contract players after this summer, Josh's contract can only be around $12mil per season, while Brand's could be $20mil or more.
For age, athleticism, health and money, I choose Smith.
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Is shot blocking the most overrated aspect of a players game today. To me Josh Smith blocks shots but he doesn't protect the basket like lets say a young Mutumbo. There are guys like Duncan that block less shots than Josh Smith but change more shots and really anchor a defense.
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