McGrady + Shaq or Kobe + Dwight

Storm Surge · Post #1 » by **Storm Surge** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:20 pm

Who would you want to start your franchise with(all players start out as rookies).

shawngoat23 · Post #2 » by **shawngoat23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:58 am

In their primes, I'll take the Shaq/McGrady side quite easily.

However, it would be worth considering that Shaq and McGrady have had relatively injury prone careers, whereas Kobe and Dwight are iron men.

kooldude · Post #3 » by **kooldude** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:59 am

Tmac's one dominant year was as good as any of Kobe

and Shaq as a rookie, is arguable better than Dwight right now. Certainly as a soph

Kobay · Post #4 » by **Kobay** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:35 am

uhhhhhh Kobe >>>>>> Tmac. Dwight >Shaq. Both on both ends.
I mean Tmac and Yao gets bounced in first round and still pick those? Hell kobe and Gasol just sweeping almost everyone and blowing them out. And for dwight he's 20 20 beast in a era where its hard for Big man to be physical.

sp6r=underrated · Post #5 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:42 am

Kobay wrote:uhhhhhh Kobe >>>>>> Tmac. Dwight >Shaq. Both on both ends.
I mean Tmac and Yao gets bounced in first round and still pick those? Hell kobe and Gasol just sweeping almost everyone and blowing them out. And for dwight he's 20 20 beast in a era where its hard for Big man to be physical.

Are you serious?

bballmaniac27 · Post #6 » by **bballmaniac27** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:55 am

Kobay wrote:uhhhhhh Kobe >>>>>> Tmac. Dwight >Shaq. Both on both ends.
I mean Tmac and Yao gets bounced in first round and still pick those? Hell kobe and Gasol just sweeping almost everyone and blowing them out. And for dwight he's 20 20 beast in a era where its hard for Big man to be physical.

what?? Shaq is a top 10 player of all time. Prime McGrady was definitely on par with kobe. GTFO man.....

How can you say Dwight > Shaq?? thats pretty darned ridiculous.

sp6r=underrated · Post #7 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:58 am

Greer wrote:Dwight>>>>>Shaq

Are you serious, and if so why?

Greer · Post #8 » by **Greer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:58 am

Dwight>>>>>Shaq

bballmaniac27 · Post #9 » by **bballmaniac27** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:02 am

Greer wrote:Dwight>>>>>Shaq

yea nowadays maybe...... I sure hope you don't think current Dwight is a better player than prime Shaq.

Post #10 » by **CBS7** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:09 am

I hope the people that said Dwight > Shaq didn't read the OP and think they are talking about right now. Because frankly, its not even close.

Greer · Post #11 » by **Greer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:11 am

I'd take Dwight right now over prime Mcgrady. And we have no clue how good prime Dwight is going to be. Obviously prime Shaq is better than Dwight right now, he is only 22. Kobe is a much better all around player than Mcgrady. And factor in the injury situation I would be inclined to take Dwight and Kobe because I feel Dwight's career is going to be extremely better than Mcgrady's and even comparable or better than Shaqs. Kobe is already comparable to Shaq but Shaq still has the edge over kobe at the moment.

OmniDEN · Post #12 » by **OmniDEN** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:13 am

Saying Dwight > prime Shaq is borderline (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

bballmaniac27 · Post #13 » by **bballmaniac27** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:16 am

Greer wrote:I'd take Dwight right now over prime Mcgrady. And we have no clue how good prime Dwight is going to be. Obviously prime Shaq is better than Dwight right now, he is only 22. Kobe is a much better all around player than Mcgrady. And factor in the injury situation I would be inclined to take Dwight and Kobe because I feel Dwight's career is going to be extremely better than Mcgrady's and even comparable or better than Shaqs. Kobe is already comparable to Shaq but Shaq still has the edge over kobe at the moment.

well that's a lot more reasonable than just saying Dwight >>>>> Shaq.

cwas2882 · Post #14 » by **cwas2882** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:51 am

Greer wrote:I'd take Dwight right now over prime Mcgrady. And we have no clue how good prime Dwight is going to be. Obviously prime Shaq is better than Dwight right now, he is only 22. Kobe is a much better all around player than Mcgrady. And factor in the injury situation I would be inclined to take Dwight and Kobe because I feel Dwight's career is going to be extremely better than Mcgrady's and even comparable or better than Shaqs. Kobe is already comparable to Shaq but Shaq still has the edge over kobe at the moment.

22 yr old Shaq > 22 yr old Dwight

I'd take Shaq and TMac.

MagicNolesFSU · Post #15 » by **MagicNolesFSU** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 am

cwas2882 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

22 yr old Shaq > 22 yr old Dwight

I'd take Shaq and TMac.

Dwight and Kobe

22 yr old shaq = 22 yr old dwight btw

cwas2882 · Post #16 » by **cwas2882** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:21 am

MagicNolesFSU wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dwight and Kobe

22 yr old shaq = 22 yr old dwight btw

I don't think so. Shaq scored more, more assists, less turnovers, higher win shares, much higher PER. Shaq also went to the NBA Finals that year.

Edit: Led the league in scoring, 2nd in MVP voting

cjx · Post #17 » by **cjx** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:25 am

Shaq would have more fun playing with McGrady relative to Kobe or Wade; McGrady would play to Shaq whereas Kobe and Wade never played in optimal consonance with Shaq (even though they won titles together, which tells you how much better those partnerships might've been ...)

shawngoat23 · Post #18 » by **shawngoat23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:03 am

Prime T-Mac was as good as prime Kobe, but only for one year.

Prime Shaq would destroy prime Howard, and I know how good Howard is.

OhMyBosh · Post #19 » by **OhMyBosh** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:23 am

shawngoat23 wrote:Prime T-Mac was as good as prime Kobe, but only for one year.

Prime Shaq would destroy prime Howard, and I know how good Howard is.

Bingo.

I just don't know what Howard's prime could end up being.

MagicNolesFSU · Post #20 » by **MagicNolesFSU** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:59 am

shawngoat23 wrote:Prime T-Mac was as good as prime Kobe, but only for one year.

Prime Shaq would destroy prime Howard, and I know how good Howard is.

How can you know this when Dwight hasnt even entered his prime yet? Get real kid. People make so many (Please Use More Appropriate Word) statements on realgm.