Who is the better PG? Isiah "Zeke" Thomas or Chris
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:04 am
I have noticed this comparison being brought up quite a few times. It is a valid comparison. Who is better Zeke or CP3?
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Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:26 am
I think CP3 will be better than Isiah when its all said and done.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:48 am
one guy has won multiple championships and is in the hall of fame. the other guy is having a pretty good season...
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:12 am
Isiah is better as a player, but we might need to reevaluate this quite soon.
Chris Paul is definitely better as GM. Really, could you find any worse?
Chris Paul is definitely better as GM. Really, could you find any worse?
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:01 am
Heat3 wrote:one guy has won multiple championships and is in the hall of fame. the other guy is having a pretty good season...
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:37 am
Isiah, by a mile. I really like Paul, but this comparision is just too early. He had a historocal season, but Thomas had several similar seasons, and a few better. He's on the same level as Isiah was in his 3rd year though, but don't forget that in his 4th year Isiah averaged 21 and 14 for Christ sake, with 2.3 steals and 4.5 rebounds. If Paul has a similar season next year, then it'll make this comparison valid.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:44 am
Zeke is a legend, Paul still a young buck. Paul CAN be as great as Zeke, but he has a LONG way to go.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:51 am
ZOMG another "young superstar player who hasn't proven much" vs "old retired superstar player who finished his career already" poll.
Can't we wait until they finish their careers before comparing? I mean, I hate Isiah and I think he's overrated and all, but I think this is a little premature.
Can't we wait until they finish their careers before comparing? I mean, I hate Isiah and I think he's overrated and all, but I think this is a little premature.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 10:53 am
"pretty good season"
Yea rly.
Yea rly.
It just kills me...
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 12:49 pm
how many posters here are all too ready to make favorable comparisons between their flavor of the month and the true legends.
I hate Thomas. I hated him as a player because he was the leader of the worst bunch of scumbags to ever infest the NBA, I hated him when he was the coach of the Pacers, and he's shown in his life since his playing days that he's a total jerk.
The Paul kid may be talented, but he's got light years to go and a hell of a lot to prove before he'll measure up to Thomas.
I hate Thomas. I hated him as a player because he was the leader of the worst bunch of scumbags to ever infest the NBA, I hated him when he was the coach of the Pacers, and he's shown in his life since his playing days that he's a total jerk.
The Paul kid may be talented, but he's got light years to go and a hell of a lot to prove before he'll measure up to Thomas.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 1:01 pm
richboy wrote:I think CP3 will be better than Isiah when its all said and done.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 2:41 pm
If you only wanted one season, it's pretty clearly Paul this year. If you wanted a career, it's pretty clearly Isiah because who knows what Paul will do.
Really not that hard to answer that way.
Really not that hard to answer that way.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 5:30 pm
Everytime people compare Chris to a guy who's retired or has had a long 'career', they want to compare that guys long career to CP's 3 years. At least statistically, CP in his 1st 3 years, was better than Isiah's first 3 years. How about comparing them to what each of them did in their 1st 3 years rather than comparing CP's 3 years to Isiah's 12 or 13.
But then again, most younguns here didn't even see Isiah in his first 3 years.
But then again, most younguns here didn't even see Isiah in his first 3 years.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 6:12 pm
If one assumes that Paul's '07/'08 season will be his standard for the next decade, then he will surpass Thomas when all is said and done. But it is still way too early to assume that to be the case.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:14 pm
In a situation like this we should take CP3's best season, and compare it to either the final year of the opposing players career, or just their worst statistical season, that way Paul is always better, which most people think anyways.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:16 pm
Batronuj wrote:In a situation like this we should take CP3's best season, and compare it to either the final year of the opposing players career, or just their worst statistical season, that way Paul is always better, which most people think anyways.
Cry more.
Re: It just kills me...
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:41 pm
writerman wrote:how many posters here are all too ready to make favorable comparisons between their flavor of the month and the true legends.
I hate Thomas. I hated him as a player because he was the leader of the worst bunch of scumbags to ever infest the NBA, I hated him when he was the coach of the Pacers, and he's shown in his life since his playing days that he's a total jerk.
The Paul kid may be talented, but he's got light years to go and a hell of a lot to prove before he'll measure up to Thomas.
???
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 7:48 pm
writerman hates everyone that's not from the Pacers or the 60s, don't mind him, he's seriously senile and needs a nurse to find the computer to type his billshut.
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:51 pm
ILikeTheGrizz wrote:writerman hates everyone that's not from the Pacers or the 60s, don't mind him, he's seriously senile and needs a nurse to find the computer to type his billshut.
if he's alluding to how dirty and physical they were, i'm a little confused. this is the same guy who fawns over how rough and tough and full of cheap shots basketball used to be.
"if you threw down a huge dunk you'd get your eye socket broken next time you came in the lane, the game used to be so pure, there's nothing but prissy little wimps now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Posted: Sun May 4, 2008 8:57 pm
He's full of so many hypocrisies that there's really no point in reading his posts. I've learned that now. In TrueLAFan's thread about the average NBA player year-by-year (adjusted for pace) he gave a pretty convincing argument for NBA play and players being pretty even throughout eras. writerman got a big boner for it and said that's what he's been talking about. Since then, I've called him out three times saying play in the 60s was way better than now, or the 90s or whenever, and asked him how that makes sense wth what he said in TrueLAFan's thread.
Three times he's ignored me because he knows he can't, he knows he's hypocritical, and he knows the more he talks the deeper he digs his grave.
Three times he's ignored me because he knows he can't, he knows he's hypocritical, and he knows the more he talks the deeper he digs his grave.