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Baylor or Erving

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 2:30 am
by Kosta
I'll admit I'm not real familiar with either player, of course I've heard about them a lot, but other than looking at stats and seeing some highlights (Dr. J), I couldn't tell you too much about them..

These two went back to back in the player comparison all time draft and it got me thinking. Who's considered the greater player?

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 2:35 am
by That Nicka
The Docta

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 3:30 am
by penbeast0
Including ABA, Erving. NBA only, Baylor. But the first comparisom is close, the second isn't.

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 4:24 am
by tmac4real
penbeast0 wrote:Including ABA, Erving. NBA only, Baylor. But the first comparisom is close, the second isn't.


julius in his shorter stint with the nba accomplished more than baylor. I'm not quite sure how it's "not close". with Erving's nba years only.

Baylor NBA:

10 all nba selections. (14 years) very impressive.
Rookie of the year
24.6 PPG 12.2 RPG (TR% 10.2) 3.9 APG 43 FG%.

Erving NBA:

7 all nba selections. (11 years)
1981 MVP
23.9 PPG 7 RPG (TR% 10.5) 4.0 APG 50.7 FG% 2.0 SPG 1.6 BPG

I fail to see how it's not close. The PPG/RPG/APG are virtually identical. Erving owns Baylor in offensive efficiency and it's not even funny. He's widely known to be a better defender, and has a MVP under the belt as well as a ring.

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 4:49 am
by Warspite
Which player retired instead of becoming the 6th man?
Which players team won 33 straight after he retired?
Which player carried an entire league?


DrJ IMHO is the better defender and on par offensively. Baylor the better rebounder while DrJ the better allround player.

Nothing wrong with either player but DrJ would translate better to today game IMHO.

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 6:12 am
by shawngoat23
Dr. J for me. But I didn't watch either of them in person, so take it with a grain of salt.

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 6:15 am
by SuigintouEV
gimme Dr J every day.

Any ring-less player who held his championship caliber team back and was called selfish by a legit GOAT candidate...well i dunno how to justify him over a guy that has him beat in those categories, and the aforementioned better stats to boot..

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 12:17 pm
by penbeast0
tmac4real wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:Including ABA, Erving. NBA only, Baylor. But the first comparisom is close, the second isn't.


julius in his shorter stint with the nba accomplished more than baylor. I'm not quite sure how it's "not close". with Erving's nba years only.

Baylor NBA:

10 all nba selections. (14 years) very impressive.
Rookie of the year
24.6 PPG 12.2 RPG (TR% 10.2) 3.9 APG 43 FG%.

Erving NBA:

7 all nba selections. (11 years)
1981 MVP
23.9 PPG 7 RPG (TR% 10.5) 4.0 APG 50.7 FG% 2.0 SPG 1.6 BPG

I fail to see how it's not close. The PPG/RPG/APG are virtually identical. Erving owns Baylor in offensive efficiency and it's not even funny. He's widely known to be a better defender, and has a MVP under the belt as well as a ring.


mmm, I thought Baylor's numbers were stronger than that and Docs efficiency less . . . . OWNED by tmac!

:bowdown:

Posted: Fri May 9, 2008 8:10 pm
by basketballnerd
i am probably in the minority but i would take Baylor's peak
(before his knee injury).

as far as career i would take Julius

Posted: Fri May 9, 2008 10:55 pm
by RoyceDa59
Docter J.