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Vince Carter vs James White: Athleticism
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:16 am
by kooldude
Who's more athletic?
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:27 am
by NO-KG-AI
Vince.
James White is like Gerald Green, never had the body strength to effectively use his athletic gifts, so it's pretty moot.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:40 am
by shawngoat23
Vince.
Although White is a better leaper--at least horizontally.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:11 am
by Joseph17
Are we talking about prime Vince? If we aren't, White wins this easily. If we are, VC wins it by a small margin.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:59 pm
by tsherkin
Vince wins this by a large margin.
Athleticism is not confined to run-jump ability and Vince has the shoulders and mass (and consequently the strength and body control) to make his athleticism valuable. Prime Vince was easily a comparable leaper both vertically and across a lateral distance. White replicates Carter's vertical leap and his distance traveled but it's meaningless given his frame.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:24 pm
by NetsForce
Vince easily. There's more to athleticism than just running and jumping... The way Carter can contort his body in mid-air is still ridiculous after all these years...
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:41 pm
by Patterns
Vince's vertical leap is nothing compared to White's. White's simply off the charts. The man does between the leg dunks from the freethrow line.
However, Vince is packed. Think of someone like Dwight who is able to jump extremely high with so much weight.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:41 pm
by kandiking
vince is perhaps the best athlete in league history. james white, as said earlier, is just a great jumper with no first step or explosiveness.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:00 pm
by tsherkin
Patterns wrote:Vince's vertical leap is nothing compared to White's. White's simply off the charts. The man does between the leg dunks from the freethrow line.
However, Vince is packed. Think of someone like Dwight who is able to jump extremely high with so much weight.
You understand that you're blatantly incorrect, right?
Vince has been evidencing a vertical of 42-44" (that is, standing vertical) even post-injury and over 30. You know that, right? Sometimes he still gets up as high as he did when he annihilated Frederic Weis' dignity at the 2000 Olympics. Vince at a comparable age to White was possessed of a similar vertical leap.
I can't believe you would be as foolish as to make that claim.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 pm
by zong
in an empty gym? or in a real NBA game?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:28 am
by NO-KG-AI
I'd like to see James White's vertical and speed if he added 35 pounds or so to get to Vince Carter weight.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:55 am
by Patterns
tsherkin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You understand that you're blatantly incorrect, right?
Vince has been evidencing a vertical of 42-44" (that is, standing vertical) even post-injury and over 30. You know that, right? Sometimes he still gets up as high as he did when he annihilated Frederic Weis' dignity at the 2000 Olympics. Vince at a comparable age to White was possessed of a similar vertical leap.
I can't believe you would be as foolish as to make that claim.
Watch some youtube videos. White puts his head 3-4 inches above the rim at ease. White can also jump longer.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:06 pm
by Harry10
White is the better athlete (and best dunker of all time IMO), but he is a stick.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:08 pm
by vi3t
Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Watch some youtube videos. White puts his head 3-4 inches above the rim at ease. White can also jump longer.
Vince can too and he's able to jump off one and both feet unlike White who only jumps off one foot