sp6r=underrated wrote:Warspite
Just answer me this question. Why isn't there any player in the last 15 years who you would consider elite? If you really Daugherty is comparable to Duncan (who besides Shaq is probably the best player of his generation), than you must think players today aren't any good.
Where did all the NBA players go?
Duncan in any era is a great defensive player and a 20-13 career player. So hes in the same neighborhood as Mosses Malone, Hakeem and Jerry Lucas as well as Bob Lanier and Walt Bellamy. Why is that such an insult??? Duncan IMHO is the better allround player than Bill Russell.
Daugherty today would most likely be the great rival of Duncan. Thats not an indictment of Duncan but of the bigmen of this era.
Daugherty IMHO is better than any C playing today outside of Duncan. Duncan today is a shadow of his former self and would struggle vs a post injured DRob. I dont see Duncan getting those 25pts 16 rebs that he used to and what DHoward, Dirk, KG are doing today. I watched Daugherty get a 20-20 in the playoffs. He was a very good player that you simply dismiss becasue he doesnt have the awards.
What I merely said was that the closest player playing today to Daugherty is Duncan. Yao is too slow but a better scorer. Shaq is putting up similar stats but plays a totaly differant game. Camby is miles behind in offense. I guess Sheed if he was the 1st option would be on par. In the current ATL draft I have had to look up alot of players and see how many players actualy had 20-10 seasons. Pre Injury Antonio McDyses was a 22-12 player. Vin Baker was also a 21-11 player.
Judgeing players on paper/film is not the same as compareing resumes.
Micheal Finley won 3 straight games of 1on1 vs MJ in 96 or 97. Finley was still in High School or at Wisconsin.
Is Finley the better player??
On that day he was and he had the potential to be great but he had no shot at being the GOAT player. Finley could play with MJ and they had similar games. I see no differance between that comparison and the one in this thread.
1. Kobe has surpassed Drexler IMHO and is now only behind MJ
2. LBJ is on par with DrJ and Oscar
3. Nash is better than Stockton
4. Amare on his best days is = K Malone
How many do you need?
Doesnt it only make sense that as time goes on its harder to be a all time great and the ladder gets harder to climb? When Baylor retired he was compared to best SF before him in Arizen. When DrJ retired he was compared to Baylor. When MJ retired he was compared to Bird, DrJ and Baylor. Being a top 20-50-100 player gets harder and harder every yr. It will be harder for Beasley than it was for Duncan to be a alltime great. Thats life.....
if you want to think Bynum is better than Parish or Gilmore or Thurmond I can see why and he has the potential to be. I reserve judgemnt becasue he is so young and I have seen alot of players have 1 great yr.
In Closeing I believe Daugherty would be a tougher matchup for Duncan than any C he has played since Shaq went to Miami. I have NP putting Daugherty on an ALL NBA 1st or 2nd team above just about every C playing today. I dont why that upsets you other than the fact that you didnt get to watch these players live.
Where did they go??
many factors not the least of them are
1. Horrible coaching at lower levels
2. 3pt line dumbing down the game
3. Population changes (baby Boomers now to old to play)
4. Moral breakdown of society
5. The glorification of the athlete.
most importantly IMHO its Roe v Wade.
Only GOD knows how many HoFers, Scientists, inventors, Presidents and Prophets that have been lost because of that lawsuit. A whole generation of Americans wiped out.
