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Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:02 pm
by halfHAVOC
whos the best postup 2/3 (not counting tweener sf/pfs, more like sg/sf's)
imo
Vince Carter
Dwyane Wade
Paul Pierce
Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
are my top 5 post up sg/sfs
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:13 pm
by penbeast0
And since when is Carmelo a 2/3 instead of a 3/4? LeBron is more of a 2/3 than Carmelo and if he is eligible, he certainly goes into the 5.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:21 pm
by halfHAVOC
i mean 2 or 3
not like a odom whos or antwan jamison or al harrington
but melo is like just a SF straight up
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:48 pm
by tsherkin
halfHAVOC wrote:i mean 2 or 3
not like a odom whos or antwan jamison or al harrington
but melo is like just a SF straight up
No he isn't; he does actually play the 4 for Denver in some of their smaller lineups.
EDIT: To be fair, and in further deconstruction of your point, he actually plays a sizeable chunk of his time at the 2. He plays something like 10 or 15% of his minutes at the 2 and a sliver of his time at the 4, the rest at the 3. But he's clearly not a straight-up SF.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:56 pm
by Basileus777
LeBron wouldn't belong even if he was a 2/3. His post game is nonexistent, which is shame considering his size.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:19 pm
by tsherkin
Basileus777 wrote:LeBron wouldn't belong even if he was a 2/3. His post game is nonexistent, which is shame considering his size.
Actually, since last year's Finals, he's been posting more often... Underdeveloped and underutilized would be more accurate choices over non-existent.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:27 pm
by halfHAVOC
melo is not naturally a 4,im talking about guys that have started and played PF alot.
just becuase VC plays PG in certain lineups doesn't mean hes a SG/SG
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:50 pm
by tsherkin
halfHAVOC wrote:melo is not naturally a 4,im talking about guys that have started and played PF alot.
Fair enough.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:20 pm
by conleyorbust
Joe Johnson loves to post his man in the high post, he was doin it to Ray Allen all day in the playoffs. Unfortunately he was also the Hawks only dependable shooter for most of the season so he would get mugged by doubles and triples.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:32 pm
by The Explorer
If this was a few years ago, it would have to include Bonzi Wells and Sam Cassell.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:50 pm
by tsherkin
zomig wrote:If this was a few years ago, it would have to include Bonzi Wells and Sam Cassell.
Bonzi, sure, but Cassell is a PG, not a wing.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:41 pm
by ISB
McGrady is good, although like the Cavs the Rockets don't take advantage of it all that often.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:26 pm
by ronnymac2
For guys that either play the 2 the majority of the time, the 3 majority of the time, or a combo of 2/3, I'd have to say the best are Melo, Kobe, Rip Hamilton, Pierce, Prince.
Lebron doesn't post nearly enough as he should. Wade doesn't really catch the ball in the post too much either. When both of them do go down there though, they are pretty effective.
T-mac is pretty good in the post. So is Bonzi Wells, like somebody already said.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:11 am
by TradeMachine
Vince Carter, a post player? Really?
My addition to the list is Roy.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:11 am
by zhangjiawei
Lebron rarely post up, sometimes he ran an early action and was guarded by a small guy? Yeah then he would post up along the baseline, then made a turnround fade away...
2007-08 season he began to play some "post-up, cut to the mid, left-hand lay-uper".
Still a post-up amateur....
(He has a Karl-Malone body with speed , so I wonder why he has'nt developed his post-game. It will be more effective then his "call for a pick, try to cut, then fade away from 20 feet".
My list:
Pierce
Camelo
Butler?
Jamison used to be when he was in Warriors.
Joe Johnson.
(Roy once said he learned a lot from JJ?)
Bonzi not a better overall player, but his post game has been **** good. In 1st round of 2006 he crushed the Spurs.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:22 pm
by halfHAVOC
TradeMachine wrote:Vince Carter, a post player? Really?
My addition to the list is and Roy.
yeah man he has a really nice post game, its a shame he fades alot but when hes in attack the basket mode in the post, hes got some ill hooks with both hands nice spins drop steps and the post to dunk on someone =)
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:30 pm
by Malinhion
1. Carmelo
2. Kobe
3. Pierce
4. Wade
5. Johnson
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:03 am
by tsherkin
Vince does have a decent post up game; he's got the hops and the shot, he plays kind of like Dominique Wilkins or younger Bernard King, a bump-and-fling kind of game. He's pretty good at it when he goes to the post. Wish he did it more, really.
Re: Your Top 5 Post-Up Wingmen
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:48 pm
by celticfan42487
I think Melo should be far and away #1 on this list. Then again I don't like the fade away jumper from the post even though it is an entirely legitamate post move.
Melo actually mixes it up with some of those hooks or drives from the post as well as fade away. I think he's the only real wing player like that when it comes to post play. Everyone else has very noticeable tendencies.