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What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:11 pm
by G I N T
If prime Chamberlain played in today's era, what would his numbers look like?
Would he be considered by most as the best player in the league?
If he played in the same league as prime O'Neal, would he be considered the better or worse center out of the two?
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:12 pm
by NetsForce
His numbers would drop across the board.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:13 pm
by Wade2k6
If I had to guess I'd say somewhere around 27-30 ppg, with 13-14 rpg and 2-3 blocks a game on good percentages.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:15 pm
by tmac4real
Wade2k6 wrote:If I had to guess I'd say somewhere around 27-30 ppg, with 13-14 rpg and 2-3 blocks a game on good percentages.
Dwight does 14 RPG and 3 BPG right now. That would imply Dwight's rebounding and blocking were on exact same level...they are not.
Chamberland COULD IF HE WANTED TO i.e. if his coach asked him to, 35 PPG 16 RPG 5 BPG rather easily.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:17 pm
by richboy
better because of defense and rebounding. I say his peak years be 30 17 5 and 5.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:33 pm
by SuigintouEV
18.5 ppg on 66% shooting / 13.0 rpg / 3.2 apg / 3.6 bpg / 1.5 spg / 1.8 PF in 35.0 mpg
^ Wilt on a winning team with plenty of scoring
27.5 ppg on 58% (60% TS)/ 14.0 rpg / 4.3 apg / 3.3 bpg / 1.0 spg / 3.2 PF in 38.5 mpg
^ Wilt on a winning team as the first option
34.0 ppg on 51% (53% TS) / 16.0 rpg / 1.6 apg / 4.2 bpg / 1.4 spg / 4.3 PF in 44 mpg
^ Wilt on a bad team
I know the fouls sound strange considering wilt historically "never fouled out" etc but that was a different era. Refs aren't as kind to big men these days IMO.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:35 pm
by JordansBulls
Considering that Wilt played in a "WEAK" Era and among 6'1" white guys at Center, he couldn't handle this more difficult era. He wouldn't have the stamina to last. If I had to compare Wilt to who he would be in this era it would be more of the caliber of someone like Andrew Bogut.
So he might get 15 and 7 in his prime in this difficult era.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:39 pm
by Baller 24
JordansBulls wrote:Considering that Wilt played in a "WEAK" Era and among 6'1" white guys at Center, he couldn't handle this more difficult era. He wouldn't have the stamina to last. If I had to compare Wilt to who he would be in this era it would be more of the caliber of someone like Andrew Bogut.
So he might get 15 and 7 in his prime in this difficult era.
Wilt has also never led the league in win-shares
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:44 pm
by G I N T
Considering that Wilt played in a "WEAK" Era and among 6'1" white guys at Center, he couldn't handle this more difficult era. He wouldn't have the stamina to last. If I had to compare Wilt to who he would be in this era it would be more of the caliber of someone like Andrew Bogut.
So he might get 15 and 7 in his prime in this difficult era.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:44 pm
by G I N T
Do you guys think he'd be more dominant than current LeBron James?
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:45 pm
by Harison
35PPG / 15RPG / 4BPG in his prime, and these are conservative numbers, Shaq had 30/14, and Wilt was all-around better player. Wilt could peak at 40/17, for example Jordan had 37PPG not so long ago, and he wasnt freakishly dominant as Wilt was.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:09 pm
by adjacent2bench
G I N T wrote:Do you guys think he'd be more dominant than current LeBron James?
Yes.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:05 pm
by Warspite
whatever his coaches allowed.
The 1st question you have to answer is how many MPG is he going to play?
The 2nd question you have to answer is what kind of team is he on?
If you put Wilt or KAJ or Shaq in GS with Nellie they are going to be busts and out of the league in 3yrs. Nellie can hold any C to single digit stats hes that great of a defensive genius. Of course he can only do that to his own players.
I see no reason he cant get 30ppg and hes going to lead the league in rebounding every yr. Wilt unlike rodman doesnt look for where the ball is going to land and get position. Wilt calculates the balls flight off of the rim and then intercepts it before it ever starts heading down. He rebounds the way you block shots. He gets the ball on the way up not after its apex and it comes down. Rodman will be in the perfect spot for where the ball comes down and Wilt will intercept the ball in flight and come down with it. Wilt doesnt care about where the ball is going he just gets in front of the rim and takes it out of the air when the ball is 10-12ft above the floor.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:18 pm
by Inc
I think if his team decides to foul the other team every possesion and let him score the whole game, i can him averaging 103 PPG
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:39 pm
by NO-KG-AI
Wilt would be the best player in the league today.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:54 pm
by Kabookalu
It all depends on him. As much as an athletic freak he was, he seemed easy to manipulate. He was criticized for only being able to dunk, he became a jumpshooting center early in his career. He was again criticized for his passing and went out to average 8.6apg. It just shows versatile he is but he should never dictate his game in accordance with what the media portrays him as. Not making him out to be some weak child but it's not the type of mentality you'd want from a player that should be in contention for GOAT.
He really had it all though. Speed, strength, quickness, skill, athleticism, passing, dribbling, and more. He's like a walking deus ex mechanica.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:59 pm
by Silver Bullet
JordansBulls wrote:Considering that Wilt played in a "WEAK" Era and among 6'1" white guys at Center, he couldn't handle this more difficult era. He wouldn't have the stamina to last. If I had to compare Wilt to who he would be in this era it would be more of the caliber of someone like Andrew Bogut.
So he might get 15 and 7 in his prime in this difficult era.
I don't know why you put that in green font. Either, you don't know your facts or you just enjoy acting like a know it all.
On Wilt's 100 point night, the tallest guy guarding him was 6ft 6.
From 1959 to 1965, there were only three guys in the whole league taller than 6ft 11, getting any minutes on a regular basis. Bellamy, Thurmond and Wilt.
From 59 to 63 there was only one - excluding Wilt.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:00 pm
by NO-KG-AI
Choker wrote:It all depends on him. As much as an athletic freak he was, he seemed easy to manipulate. He was criticized for only being able to dunk, he became a jumpshooting center early in his career. He was again criticized for his passing and went out to average 8.6apg. It just shows versatile he is but he should never dictate his game in accordance with what the media portrays him as. Not making him out to be some weak child but it's not the type of mentality you'd want from a player that should be in contention for GOAT.
He really had it all though. Speed, strength, quickness, skill, athleticism, passing, dribbling, and more. He's like a walking deus ex mechanica.
This is true, but I really think the media today would slam him for not dominating the paint, and coming up short in big games, and they would unknowingly release the beast.
I can't see him not being the leading rebounder and shotblocker, a top 2-3 passer as a big at worst, and probably the best scorer in the league.
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:09 pm
by KingLeoric
Silver Bullet wrote:JordansBulls wrote:Considering that Wilt played in a "WEAK" Era and among 6'1" white guys at Center, he couldn't handle this more difficult era. He wouldn't have the stamina to last. If I had to compare Wilt to who he would be in this era it would be more of the caliber of someone like Andrew Bogut.
So he might get 15 and 7 in his prime in this difficult era.
I don't know why you put that in green font. Either, you don't know your facts or you just enjoy acting like a know it all.
On Wilt's 100 point night, the tallest guy guarding him was 6ft 6.
From 1959 to 1965, there were only three guys in the whole league taller than 6ft 11, getting any minutes on a regular basis. Bellamy, Thurmond and Wilt.
From 59 to 63 there was only one - excluding Wilt.
First of all, you neglected to mention the greatest defensive player of all time, Russell.
Second of all, even if there were only 3 6'11" guys that means that Wilt plays them 20-25% of the time because there were 8-9 teams in the league.
Third of all, players were measured without shoes back then, so add an inch to measured heights to compare to the current measurements, which are all with shoes.
Fourth, there was a 7'3" guy, Swede Halbrook, sure he was a stiff but then again all you care about is height and don't care that great players like Russell and Pettit who were 6'9" - 6'10". Go look at the rosters, there were plenty of 6'10" and up players, sure there were a lot of stiffs but look at how many 7 foot stiffs are in the league today.
Fifth, you're wrong about his 100 point game, Imhoff was 6'10".
Re: What would prime Wilt Chamberlain average in today's era?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:14 pm
by NO-KG-AI
and if you scale up the 6'9 guys like they are today, they are 6'11 in this league.