Dejounte Murray

[jayu70]

Hawks will be looking to move Bogi.

My money would be on Huerter because Bogi's contract lines up with Murray's.

Older and injury prone. Huerter's deal lines up with Trae.

[raleigh]

Huerter's deal lines up with Trae.

That's not necessarily a good thing (assuming Hunter is extended).

[jayu70]

Huerter's deal lines up with Trae.

That's not necessarily a good thing (assuming Hunter is extended).

It is. Huerter is on a great deal. Considering the anticipated rising cap explosion in 2 years with the new TV deal - those are the contract you need.

[D21]

If I were the Hawks, I’d clear out the wing depth to get a 1st.. Bogdan or Huerter.. or a couple of picks for Collins, if they think Okongwu is ready enough and can shoot threes.. ideally you’d have Murray, Trae, Huerter/BB, Hunter, Okongwu, Clint and a lot of picks left over..

Hawks will be looking to move Bogi.

I doubt they move Bogi unless they are really forced to.
First, the team is almost always better when is on the floor.
Second, another player has to prove he can hit big shots in the fourth like Trae and Bogi
Third, Bogi and Trae are seemingly very close when it comes to pushing each other to be better and win games.

[jayu70]

If I were the Hawks, I’d clear out the wing depth to get a 1st.. Bogdan or Huerter.. or a couple of picks for Collins, if they think Okongwu is ready enough and can shoot threes.. ideally you’d have Murray, Trae, Huerter/BB, Hunter, Okongwu, Clint and a lot of picks left over..

Hawks will be looking to move Bogi.

I doubt they move Bogi unless they are really forced to.
First, the team is almost always better when is on the floor.
Second, another player has to prove he can hit big shots in the fourth like Trae and Bogi
Third, Bogi and Trae are seemingly very close when it comes to pushing each other to be better and win games.

If we trade for Murray, Bogi is relegated to the bench. There was talk that he accepted coming off the bench last season because he couldn't stay healthy, but he was not happy about it and wanted to move back to starting or be traded this offseason.

[D21]

Hawks will be looking to move Bogi.

I doubt they move Bogi unless they are really forced to.
First, the team is almost always better when is on the floor.
Second, another player has to prove he can hit big shots in the fourth like Trae and Bogi
Third, Bogi and Trae are seemingly very close when it comes to pushing each other to be better and win games.

If we trade for Murray, Bogi is relegated to the bench. There was talk that he accepted coming off the bench last season because he couldn't stay healthy, but he was not happy about it and wanted to move back to starting or be traded this offseason.

I remember, late in the season, Bogi talking about coming off the bench and saying that if it makes them better at winning games, it's not a problem for him, but he was not talking about next season.

Now, there's a problem if we trade for Murray: trading Bogi or not, Huerter would also has to come off the bench, and it's even a bigger problem as we all saw that he was not good at all coming off the bench this last season. Bogi was good coming off the bench or not.
If we get Murray, and trade Bogi, and if Huerter doesn't become a good bench player, we might have a better starting lineup but a bench unit worst than last season (unless other trades or signing bring help)

[jayu70]

I doubt they move Bogi unless they are really forced to.
First, the team is almost always better when is on the floor.
Second, another player has to prove he can hit big shots in the fourth like Trae and Bogi
Third, Bogi and Trae are seemingly very close when it comes to pushing each other to be better and win games.

If we trade for Murray, Bogi is relegated to the bench. There was talk that he accepted coming off the bench last season because he couldn't stay healthy, but he was not happy about it and wanted to move back to starting or be traded this offseason.

I remember, late in the season, Bogi talking about coming off the bench and saying that if it makes them better at winning games, it's not a problem for him, but he was not talking about next season.

Now, there's a problem if we trade for Murray: trading Bogi or not, Huerter would also has to come off the bench, and it's even a bigger problem as we all saw that he was not good at all coming off the bench this last season. Bogi was good coming off the bench or not.
If we get Murray, and trade Bogi, and if Huerter doesn't become a good bench player, we might have a better starting lineup but a bench unit worst than last season (unless other trades or signing bring help)

If I had to pick between Huerter at 23 improving vs Bogi staying healthy...I'm taking Huerter.

[tbhawksfan1]

I think that the notion that Heuter can't come off the bench is strange. Sure anyone would like to have Trae feeding them, but Heurter's talent needs to show no matter who he's playing with. If we get Murray. I see Bogy traded and Heurter off the bench.

[Jamaaliver]

Dejounte Murray would be great for Hawks at right trade price

It’s obvious why the Hawks are seeking a trade for Spurs guard Dejounte Murray. He would be a great fit next to point guard Trae Young. The Hawks need good defenders, especially on the perimeter, and Murray checks that box. Murray is under contract for two more seasons, and the price is a bargain if you believe, as I do, that his breakout season at 25 years old is the true measure of his value.

The question, as always, is what getting Murray would cost the Hawks. If team president Travis Schlenk can acquire Murray without surrendering core players, then he will have made the Hawks better. If Schlenk can do that while also not giving up multiple first-round draft picks, then he will have pulled off a heist. The Spurs aren’t suckers, so I’m thinking a third team would have to send picks to San Antonio as part of a Hawks deal for Murray.

LJ Ellis of Spurs Talk reported Tuesday afternoon that San Antonio is seeking “four first-round draft picks with little to no (lottery) protections.” The Hawks have an extra pick that’s protected from picks 1 through 16 in the 2023 draft and from 1 through 14 in ‘24 and ‘25. Giving up that pick plus three others in the first round for two seasons of Murray would be a lopsided deal in San Antonio’s favor.

Ellis reports that the Spurs would accept Hawks center Onyeka Okongwu in lieu of one of those first-round picks. Okongwu, the No. 6 overall pick in 2020, should be considered a core player. He’s already a good defender with the potential to expand his offense. Okongwu won’t be a free agent until after the 2023-24 season. I’d keep Okongwu, unless parting with him is necessary as part of a package for a player better than Murray, and I say that as someone who likes Murray for the Hawks.

Murray wouldn’t be a splashy acquisition. He just made his first All-Star team in five years and has been a full-time starter for only the past three. The Spurs missed the playoffs three consecutive seasons after making it an NBA-record 22 consecutive years. Now it appears Gregg Popovich is willing to send Murray away so that the Spurs can be bad enough to get a high pick in the 2023 draft, which will feature potential franchise players at the top.

The Hawks finished 10th in the East last season, made the playoffs via the play-in tournament and then were dominated by the Heat in the first round. That series exposed the Hawks’ shortcomings: lack of defensive grit and no playmaker and scorer who produces consistently when opponents deny Young the ball and space.

That’s where Murray comes in. If he joins the Hawks, he’d be their second-best guard. Murray became a much bigger part of San Antonio’s offense in 2021-22 and produced 21.1 points and 9.2 assists per game. Murray’s shooting efficiency was solid and his turnover rate excellent. Three-point shooting is Murray’s weakness, but that wouldn’t be a big problem with the Hawks.

For one, Murray is a strong finisher at the rim. The Hawks don’t have a perimeter player who does that consistently. Also, Murray could run the point for the Hawks so Young could play off the ball more. The benefit would be twofold. Young is an excellent spot-up shooter, and if he has fewer playmaking responsibilities, that would lessen the chances he gets worn down like he did during the Miami series.

Murray is the kind of dogged defender needed to play alongside Young. He collects steals and deflections at a high rate, is a great rebounder for his position and was part of San Antonio’s best defensive lineup last season. Murray has developed in San Antonio’s defense-first culture. If the Hawks acquire Murray, they would hope that his attitude rubs off on his new teammates.

AJC

[saloonyk8]

Price seems to steep imo. Maybe Hawks should move on to next best option.

I can't imagine any other team giving 4 assets... The price will be a lot lower next year.

[saloonyk8]

Would the timberwolves give 3 FRP? I can't think of another team desperate for Murray

[HMFFL]

If San Antoino is talking to Minnesota I can only assume the Spurs are wanting Jaden McDaniels. He has a great deal of upside and more than John Collins.

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[saloonyk8]

If San Antoino is talking to Minnesota I can only assume the Spurs are wanting Jaden McDaniels. He has a great deal of upside and more than John Collins.

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But will they attach 3 first round picks?

I'm just hoping we're offering 3 picks (inc Cha) and Gallo and Spurs will accept by 5pm lol.

[HMFFL]

Knicks interested in Dejounte Murray due to defensive concerns with Jalen Brunson, Evan Fournier backcourt

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The Knicks are among the teams who have expressed interest in acquiring Dejounte Murray via trade, SNY has learned. Bleacher Report stated that the Atlanta Hawks and San Antonio Spurs had previously had talks around a potential trade for Murray. […] Some with the Knicks have talked about Murray’s fit in the backcourt if they are able to land Brunson. Some members of the organization are concerned about the backcourt of Brunson and Evan Fournier defensively.

 

– via SportsNet New York



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[RoyceDa59]

Great trade for you guys. Murray is a two way stud.

[HMFFL]

Great trade for you guys. Murray is a two way stud.

If HE decides to be that type of player longterm

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I like the trade and I'm content with it.
I have some age most of here so I'm a realist.

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