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Re: Deni Avdija Full "UNGUARDABLE" 2019/20 Highlights ● The Next STAR! 

Post#61 » by King Ken » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:50 am

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That said, Deni can play on the perimeter full time on offense but defensively, he's a 4. So how is that gonna work?

To me, this is like taking a Boris Diaw mixed with Nic Batum type over an offensive star. I can't do it. This is some shoot your self in the foot nonsense.


Well. Deni never played 4. He played exclusively wing in Euroleague, and was considered above-average defender there (which is extremely rare for 19 years old kid - I think Rubio was the only other young player regarded this way before NBA draft) . I don't understand why people are so sure that he can't defend wings...

Rubio is a PG for all levels of play, Deni will be a NBA 4, so that matters. This idea that he's a NBA 3 is strange to me. Poor lateral quickness, average wingspan for a wing, and being a NBA 3 doesn't work unless teams hide you with a great defensive player like Bam Adebayo or you are a big wing who has excellent stamina where you can run all day like Kyle Korver defensively but even Kyle needed time to adjust to the NBA style of play and the offensive players across the league. I think you are underestimating the level of difficulty defending on the wing in the NBA.
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Post#62 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:24 pm

Deni Avdija

Avdija has mostly flown under the radar as there isn’t much flare to his game, but the fundamentally sound prospect generated enough noise in the Euro League to be a projected top-five pick by most analysts.

Avdija is a playmaking forward/wing with a quickly developing jump shot. He only averaged 4.0 points per game last season for Maccabi Tel Aviv but he did increase his role in the FIBA U20 tournament. He showed solid potential as a passer and scorer.

One of the biggest concerns around his game is a lack of athleticism. Avdija won’t be quicker or stronger than most NBA players and will have to rely mostly on his craftiness to score. Thankfully, we have seen numerous clips of him relentlessly working in the gym to improve.

Avdija could be the perfect prospect for the Warriors to stash on their bench and gradually give more responsibility. There is a possibility he blossoms into a versatile offensive talent – but he could just as easily fail to make the leap to the NBA.
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Post#63 » by arusinov » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:52 am

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Deni Avdija

Avdija has mostly flown under the radar as there isn’t much flare to his game, but the fundamentally sound prospect generated enough noise in the Euro League to be a projected top-five pick by most analysts.

Avdija is a playmaking forward/wing with a quickly developing jump shot. He only averaged 4.0 points per game last season for Maccabi Tel Aviv but he did increase his role in the FIBA U20 tournament. He showed solid potential as a passer and scorer.

One of the biggest concerns around his game is a lack of athleticism. Avdija won’t be quicker or stronger than most NBA players and will have to rely mostly on his craftiness to score. Thankfully, we have seen numerous clips of him relentlessly working in the gym to improve.

Avdija could be the perfect prospect for the Warriors to stash on their bench and gradually give more responsibility. There is a possibility he blossoms into a versatile offensive talent – but he could just as easily fail to make the leap to the NBA.
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If someone says that Deni's game lacks flair they probably have seen only his Maccabi highlights where he was just 3&D wing in Euroleague and scoring SF in I-BSL

If someone says Deni lacks athleticism they probably have seen only his old highlights as his athletics abilities greatly improved in last year...

So this guy probably didn't see any. He also succeded to misunderstand that Euro U20 was before the season and not after
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Post#64 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:34 pm

Reasons Deni Avdija is the Perfect Draft Pick

Defensive Potential

Avdija, like many other players entering the draft this season, have concerns surrounding their ability to lock in on defense. Although he’s been caught sleeping on defense a few times in the Israeli Winners League, there’s no doubt that he has the timing and length to make key steals and blocks on the defensive end.
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His wingspan isn’t the longest (6′ 9″), but he’s shown a clear talent for knowing when and hot to go for the ball and avoid drawing a foul. He is by no means a lock down wing defender, but Avdija can more than hold his own on basketball’s less glamorous end.
With the new challenge that the NBA proposes to young players, its not hard to imagine Avdija locking in and putting those defensive intangibles to better use in the world’s premier basketball league.

Shot Creation

Avdija has flashed all the skills you want from an NBA scorer. He has the range to score from deep, and the moves to get those types of shots off at will. He has by no means perfected the talent yet, but he’s shown plenty of potential to be a dangerous perimeter scorer in the NBA.

ESPN’s Mike Schmitz broke down Advija’s perimeter skill set well.

“In the half-court, Avdija’s intrigue starts with his ability to make pull-up 3s. Now, he shot only 28.6% from 3 during this tournament, and he is a career 58.2% free throw shooter on 306 attempts, which is concerning. But watching him play in person for more than two years, he is not lacking touch. The fact that he can hop into 30-foot pull-ups versus switches or step back into 3s gives him tremendous upside as a half-court shot-creator, even if he’s still learning on the job, particularly as a ball handler. Avdija made 2.1 3s per 40 minutes at the U20s, and he is a career 32.4% 3-point shooter on 358 attempts, which likely would be a much higher clip if he were more selective.”

His deep ball is not anything the NBA hasn’t seen before, but he has the step back and the shot form and confidence to be a perimeter scoring threat. His height gives him an extra advantage, letting him shoot over the tops of defenders like they aren’t even there.

In addition to his outside scoring, Avdija is no slouch off the dribble either. Although not the fastest guard, the 6-foot-9 Israeli has the size and dribble moves to attack the basket and make plays. His length and athleticism have been put on display in the Israel Winners League, where he regularly finishes at the rim through contact. He can even bully smaller opponents in the paint, which is just icing on the cake that is his well-rounded offensive game.

Playmaking

The Israeli 19-year old projects as a future point-forward in the NBA. In 2018-2019, Avdiija averaged just .7 APG in the Israeli Winner League. That number jumped to 2.6 APG in 2019-2020, and Avdija has looked even sharper as a passer since the return of Israeli basketball in June. During his first game back on June 21st, Avdija dropped 23 points, 7 REB, and 5 AST as Tel Aviv beat Maccabi Ashod 114-82.
He’s improved as a passer each season in the competitive EuroLeague, as well as international U-20 basketball. his continued improvement and talent in passing on one of basketball’s more competitive stages gives hope that he could blossom into a talented playmaking forward in the NBA.
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Post#66 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:11 pm

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All of the questions related to Avdija's game are tied to a big one: Does he have star potential, or will he be the role player he was for Maccabi?

Where Will Avdija Max Out as a Shooter?
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Opinions vary on the 6'8", 210-pound Avdija's shooting and whether it's a plus or a minus on the scouting report. Buying versus selling the jumper could significantly move the needle when projecting his future.

This past season, he shot 27.7 percent from three in EuroLeague and 37.5 percent in the I-BSL, in which he played more (26.6 minutes) and averaged 1.3 makes per game.

Over the years, the results have been all over the place. The made shots have seemed pretty persuasive in terms of the eye test on his mechanics. Arguably the biggest worry lies within his free-throw numbers—to some, a stronger indicator when projecting shooting. He shot below 56 percent in both leagues this past season. In 140 games dating back to 2017, he's shot 56.5 percent from the free-throw line.

The other concern is the lack of shooting versatility. A heavy majority of his shots have come off the catch as a standstill shooter. He hasn't been used often for running hard off screens and shooting after movement...it's been rare to see Avdija connect off the dribble.

He's already capable, and his size and form suggest he should continue to remain a spot-up threat in a spaced-out NBA. But how much will the lack of shooting versatility limit his scoring? And are his free-throw numbers a result of mental or fundamental issues?
How Well Will Avdija Be Able to Create and Separate?
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Avdija played mostly off the ball with Maccabi, but for Israel, he was used as an initiator, and the encouraging results increased his NBA appeal. He averaged 5.3 assists at the U20 tournament but just 1.7 assists during the season. Can the creation and playmaking translate against NBA wings and forwards?

A skeptic may point out that Avdija lacks wiggle and explosiveness. A believer may buy his ball-handling, IQ, passing skills and unselfishness.

The bigger question may concern shot creativity for himself. This past year, he relied mostly on transition, catch-and-shoot chances and cuts. He's a driving threat as well as a comfortable finisher with his floater and layup packages. But no dribble-jumper game could limit his scoring potential and upside in general.
Best Used as a Wing or a Big?
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Versatility defines Avdija's game. A best-case scenario pictures him playing either forward spot depending on matchups.

He projects best as a 4 who can exploit his ball skills and mobility from baseline to baseline. But at this stage of his physical development, certain power forwards will be able to play through him inside the arc. And there is some fear that he may have trouble defending NBA wings around the perimeter.

Does he have the quickness to deny dribble penetration? Can he hold his ground in the paint when matched up with bigger, stronger 4s? Checking both those boxes could turn Avdija into a valuable defender because he already demonstrates admirable IQ, focus and competitiveness.

Offensively, his jumper will need to improve to work as a wing, where he would create mismatches with his size.
Scouts feel confident in Avdija's floor. It's his ceiling projection that's led to debate within NBA circles.

In terms of draft stock, he has two key factors going for him: extreme uncertainty regarding 2020 prospects and the fact that Avdija can fit in every lineup...for the majority of lottery teams, drafting him wouldn't lead to any positional log jams. He's a flexible piece to build with. Whether Avdija is a centerpiece or a supporting piece, however, will be determined by his progress as a shooter, creator and defender.

It's tough to picture any scenario in which he slides outside the top 10.
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Post#67 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:22 pm

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Post#68 » by Spud2nique » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:21 pm

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He’s a good player to me but I personally wouldn’t spend a top 4 pick on him. He will be a great contributor though if he realizes he will never be the man.
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Post#69 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:23 pm

Deni was traded last season for pick #14 and an expiring contract.
He's currently on one of the best value contracts in the league.
It's absolutely absurd we didn't get in on that deal.

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Post#70 » by HMFFL » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:47 am

Deni Avdija was on my 2020 draft board. I remember some of you having him on yours too.

At this point, he has made a home for himself in Portland after being traded there. His rebounding lately has impressed me but playing with heart gives players an edge.

Rebounds last seven games:
11, 8, 16, 6, 6, 15, 16

Thankful he's no longer in the Southeast divison.



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Post#71 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Apr 2, 2025 12:43 pm

Wizards gave him away for the 14th pick in a weak draft...this should have been the guy Hawks went after last summer!!!



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Post#72 » by jayu70 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:25 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Wizards gave him away for the 14th pick in a weak draft...this should have been the guy Hawks went after last summer!!!

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Do you mean in the Murray trade?
There was also a 2029 1st and 2 2nds included in the deal.
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Post#73 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:53 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Wizards gave him away for the 14th pick in a weak draft...this should have been the guy Hawks went after last summer!!!


Do you mean in the Murray trade?

There was also a 2029 1st and 2 2nds included in the deal.



No, I mean for the #1 overall pick.

I absolutely forgot about the conditional first round pick included in the deal. But it's a steal for Deni.

His contract is an insane value...

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Post#74 » by jayu70 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:08 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Wizards gave him away for the 14th pick in a weak draft...this should have been the guy Hawks went after last summer!!!


Do you mean in the Murray trade?

There was also a 2029 1st and 2 2nds included in the deal.



No, I mean for the #1 overall pick.

I absolutely forgot about the conditional [

And what else from the Wiz?
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Post#75 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:16 pm

jayu70 wrote:And what else from the Wiz?


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Post#76 » by jayu70 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:38 pm

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jayu70 wrote:And what else from the Wiz?


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Then I don't think that would have been an option.
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Post#77 » by DirtybirdGA » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:53 pm

Sure as hell cooked the Hawks.
Where the offseason has more buzz happens.
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Post#78 » by HMFFL » Mon Apr 7, 2025 4:33 pm

Deni Avdija on NBA Europe: 'I just hope it doesn’t ruin anything'



Avdija spent three years playing professionally in Europe for Maccabi Tel Aviv, amassing 34 EuroLeague appearances before joining the NBA in 2020, when he was selected ninth overall by the Washington Wizards. With solid experience on both sides of the Atlantic, his opinion carries weight. “I don’t really go into the idea or what’s going to happen. I’m just happy that the game is expanding. I just hope it doesn’t ruin anything in Europe. You know, there are some authentic things in Europe that you don’t want to take away, and I just hope it brings more fans but that the competition remains the same,” said Avdija, who knows well what the lively environments of the EuroLeague are like.

 

– via EuroHoops.net

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1808890/deni-avdija-happy-about-nba-expansion-to-europe-hope-it-doesnt-ruin-anything/


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Post#79 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Apr 7, 2025 6:00 pm

Drafting Don Clingan and trading for Deni Avdija seems to have turned the whole Trail Blazers franchise around...

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