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Post#21 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 4:00 am

The Hawks with another fake rally. Smith killed our momentum with the two missed free throws and Woodson sealed the deal at the end ensuring the Bucks would win(although we would have lost anyway) by taking all 24 seconds off the shot clock in a two possesion game.
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Post#22 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Feb 1, 2009 4:03 am

GAME OVER...YAYY! Ya if Smith didnt think he was Ray Allen and took the ball to the basket more often and got his ass in the post more often he would be an easy 20-10 guy but he has down syndrome. Hes been getting his points lately but hastnt changed his tendencies enough to show improvement. Hes still jumpshot happy and thinks he has Allen Iverson handles. If and when he learns how to play basketball he will be dangerous and an easy all star. He seems to have the mentality of a high schooler. I also would love to see Joe or Mike take control of this team, meaning scream at someone in the huddle when yall are down 18 to the freaking Bucks before halftime. Also Mr Woodson needs to sit Josh down and tell him what hes here for and what he needs to improve on. Hes a great talent no denying but he has a long way to go. GET IT TOGETHER HAWKS!
Is it to much to ask for a team that plays hard and cares? Seems so.
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Post#23 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Feb 1, 2009 4:06 am

Smith shot 8-16 with 18 points and 2-4 from the line. He shot 5 jumpshots. He would be shooting 60-65 percent from the field if he would cut down jumpshots! SHOCKING!
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Post#24 » by parson » Sun Feb 1, 2009 4:59 am

I didn't get to see this game but it looks as if we played a HS all-star game, you know, where the guards just dribble up and shoot: no offense, no passing. Our guards shot 53 out of our team's 85 shots! Our starting SF and Center get FOUR shots apiece? By the way, since they had 4 and 3 offensive rebounds, it looks as if they only received a couple of passes for a shot (or maybe only 1?).

What happened? Somebody tell me what our offensive scheme is. Please lie to me and tell me the offense wasn't as pitifully managed as it looks.
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Post#25 » by Skyhawk1 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 6:37 am

SneakerKing33 wrote:Joe Johnson could out shoot Smith with his left hand. Smiths shot has improved a little over this year but it still needs dramatic work. If he could keep his dribble lower to the ground and stop using his body so much on crossovers he would be great.


lol then it wouldn't be him, but hey, he's untouchable, he's from Atlanta, the hometown hero, can block shots, plays great defense, fills up the seats at Phillips (Haven't you notice it?), always makes good decisions, has exceptional shot selection, he's J. Smoove man......lol. Anyway, I knew we'd struggle without Horford, but we've been horrible. No execution of any kind. I wish we could take a month break, we look tired and out of sync.
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Post#26 » by JoshB914 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 8:19 am

If we don't play defense we don't win. It is is so obvious that everything we do starts on that side of the ball. When we do our job on D we get buckets in transition and control the tempo of games. Why we refuse to execute defensively is beyond me.

Woodson really screwed up playing Solo for that long. The guy is completely clueless defensively. Is he capable of challenging a shot without fouling? There's no reason not to at least give Randolph/Othello a look with the way Solo has been playing.
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Post#27 » by Master8492 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 4:25 pm

This is the first bad game for Solo this month. In the previous 6 games he's making 13/17 FGs 10/11 FT, averaging 6pt 3reb in 13.5 mins/game. Looks like Solo fouls alot in these games but at least he's playing physical defense (Zaza would just get the hell out of the way).
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Post#28 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Feb 1, 2009 6:16 pm

Zaza really screwed it up by commiting stupid fouls. Then Solo comes in and hammers people on stupid plays. Solo really needs to pack on muscle. Ya Josh is the hometown hero and sure he puts people in the stands but honestly if he doesnt learn how to play basketball it iwll really effect this team for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. I still think we can do alot of damage in the playoffs and i beleive its on Josh's shoulders.
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Post#29 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Feb 1, 2009 6:20 pm

Skyhawk1 wrote:
SneakerKing33 wrote:Joe Johnson could out shoot Smith with his left hand. Smiths shot has improved a little over this year but it still needs dramatic work. If he could keep his dribble lower to the ground and stop using his body so much on crossovers he would be great.


lol then it wouldn't be him, but hey, he's untouchable, he's from Atlanta, the hometown hero, can block shots, plays great defense, fills up the seats at Phillips (Haven't you notice it?), always makes good decisions, has exceptional shot selection, he's J. Smoove man......lol. Anyway, I knew we'd struggle without Horford, but we've been horrible. No execution of any kind. I wish we could take a month break, we look tired and out of sync.

My question is that when Al comes back against Minnesota do you think he will turn this team around and make us the contender that we should be? It could easily go either way but I think he will make a difference but I truly think that we need to make some kind of move. Add a piece to the bench would be nice.
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Post#30 » by Retrovision » Sun Feb 1, 2009 6:44 pm

Why the hell would you want Morris to play over Solo???????
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Post#31 » by Skyhawk1 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 7:59 pm

King33, with Al, we won't be a contender, but our D is much more solid. A frontcourt with Zaza and Smith is any opponents dream. They're both non physycal, can't box out to save their lifes. On the top of that, Horford runs the floor much better than any bigs we got, barely plays out of his limits, can rebound, and won't force things. I've missed my guy Horford. So have the Hawks.
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Post#32 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Feb 1, 2009 9:18 pm

Smith's rebounding has been better lately. Zaza was a pretty good rebounder to start the year but that's pretty much disappeared since Horford got hurt. The amount of 5 and under rebound games he has as a starter is pathetic.

We need BOTH Smith and Horford. It's amazing the Hawks still have a legit shot at getting the 4th seed considering how many games they've both missed compared to all of last year where they both only missed one each.
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Post#33 » by ATL DirtyBird » Mon Feb 2, 2009 5:02 am

O ya there is no way in hell that we can win a title or even get to the easter championships with Al at the 5. Thats pretty much a fact of life. I know weve made strides form last season and i know we gave the celtics fits in the playoffs and i think we will get past whoever we play first round. Second round is up in the air. Cuz I know we have one of the msot talented starting 5s in basketball and theyve gotten better from last year but so has the top 3 teams in the east as well. I know im looking way to far ahead. I have all the faith in the world in this team cuz we are ooozing with potential but Al at the 5 will be a problem and will always be. Hes a natural 4 and so is Smith. We are in a bind there bc of the poor draft selctions in the previous years. A move needs to be made bc I dont if next year Bibby will be here and if he is will he be any good? I kno were young everywhere else but were still (Please Use More Appropriate Word) all around the board besides Joe and Mike. So if mike leaves I dont know where we will be. Im looking far ahead cuz I dont htink this season has much potential especially with all the talent in the east all of a sudden. Sorry for blabbering but im just frustrated!
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Post#34 » by JoshB914 » Mon Feb 2, 2009 6:44 am

Master8492 wrote:This is the first bad game for Solo this month. In the previous 6 games he's making 13/17 FGs 10/11 FT, averaging 6pt 3reb in 13.5 mins/game. Looks like Solo fouls alot in these games but at least he's playing physical defense (Zaza would just get the hell out of the way).


He's also committed 25 fouls over those six games. He is averaging 2.5 fouls per game while logging only 12.5 minutes per night. I don't think that kind of "physical defense" helps out very much. Maybe his offensive stats look nice (and that's an area that we hardly use him in the first place), but I feel his performance has been far from good. In fact, it's been quite bad.

There is no reason not to give Randolph or Othello a shot. Unless we want teams to continue to live at the FT line whenever Solo is in the game.
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Re: Bucks Vs Hawks 

Post#35 » by epfou1 » Mon Feb 2, 2009 11:33 am

Anyone think the Bucks could make good trade partners for Atlanta.

Marvin, Zaza for Bogut.

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