Trade Chills

[theatlfan]

I've seen a couple of posts here already looking toward the off-season (not to throw stones or anything - I have been as well) and my biggest ? for the off-season is Chills. If the rumors are true that a) he is getting a little home sick and wants to return to the US and b) there was some bad blood in the negotiations between him and the Hawks, then in all probability we will do a S&T with him sometime this off-season. I figured I'd start a thread with ideas about realistic trade scenarios involving Chills. I start with these 2:

Trade 1) Chills and Acie Law to LAC for B Davis and a future 1st (for rigor sake, say MIN's top 10 protected through 2012 when it's unprotected)
Why for us? It's definitely a high risk/high reward proposition for us. If it works out, then we could be considered in the elite in the East next year. Adding another big perimeter player with elite athleticism would make us a matchup nightmare for anyone who goes up against us. Davis has also shown decent D and very good passing skills when the situation warrants. He also has the desire to push the ball up the court which is also a fit with our athletic front court.
There is an obvious drastic downside here: B Davis will be 30 next month and is on a HUGE deal which could set us back a few years if it doesn't work out. There is also the motivation factor, but we could be talking championship, so I don't think it'd be too hard to get him motivated. I'm also kind of worried how he'd fit into our O (all his weaknesses seem to fit what Woodson allows of his stars).
Why for LAC? They considered dumping Davis @ the deadline and this deal would actually yield a nice return. Chills would be the top backup wing (behind Thornton and Gordon) which should give him 30+ mins/night. Law would be extra depth behind a probable high lottery pick @ PG.
They do give up a nice pick in the deal, but for a team blowing it up and starting anew, it's prolly worth it to get out from under Davis' contract while getting some nice young talent in return.

Deal 2) Chills to PHI for Lou Williams and Jason Smith
PHI has to rethink the makeup of their team and they might choose to build around Brand. Chills is an efficient scorer and always seems to find the open space in the D. Williams is tough for them to give, but they have enough wings who aren't great shooters. We get an upgrade over Flip Murray and someone to fight with Solo for the 4th big spot on the bench.

I'm not tied to either, does anyone else have any ideas here?

[raleigh]

Childress will be BYC, so trading him will be difficult. Including Claxton in the trade should help, but the options will be limited.

[LL Cool Scott]

I'd rather we hold on to him. There was no market for him when the economy was doing ok, there certainly won't be a market for him now. He's a cheap asset. We were at our best against the C's last postseason when he was on the floor. He's a great 6th man, and he's cheap.

[evildallas]

I'll brainstorm and post ideas later, but I wanted to comment on your 2 trades.
Deal 1) Don't know if they would include the pick, but Clippers would love to move Baron. However, he has a horrible contract given his age, his proclivity for becoming unhappy, and his track record for rebellion. As talented as he his, I would never want to chance having him on our team. I was about to say he's the NBA's Terrell Owens, but the truth is he's worse. His me first actions in Golden State before they got Don Nelson to coach were legendary and horrible. He (along with Jason Richardson) were not only disrespectful to the coach, but ran whatever they felt like regardless of what was called from the bench with regularity. They also froze out players they didn't like from the offense. In LA, he didn't get his dream teammate and rather than make the best of it and prove he's still worth 13M a season he's phoned it in. If your another team considering Baron Davis you have to sure that you have a coach that can reach him and a lineup that he'll be happy with. Only then might you see the great Baron. It's far more likely that you'll see horrible Baron and if you do, you'll probably have to blow up the team to get the poison out of the well.

Deal 2) I don't know why Philly would do this trade. They would be giving up 2 solid rotational players (when healthy) for 1. Jason Smith is a big give up as well for them because size is hard to get. If healthy, he isn't competition for Solo, he blows Solo away. He showed more in his rookie year than Solo has shown in all 3 years. Louis Williams has way more upside than Flip as well. It seems to me that Philly is giving up a lot to get Childress and I'm not sure why they would even covet him.

[D21]

I'd rather we hold on to him. There was no market for him when the economy was doing ok, there certainly won't be a market for him now. He's a cheap asset. We were at our best against the C's last postseason when he was on the floor. He's a great 6th man, and he's cheap.

Not sure there was no market, because if some teams like SAN wanted to sign him, it would have been for the MLE, and they certainly knew that ATL would have match for this amount.
And I am sure that if he had not sign with Olympiakos before Smith got his contract, ATL would have offer a little bit more than what they offered the first time, because they knew exactly this time the salary of Smith and the amount available under the tax, and there was room to sign him, something we could not know before Smith got his contract.

[evildallas]

I'd rather we hold on to him. There was no market for him when the economy was doing ok, there certainly won't be a market for him now. He's a cheap asset. We were at our best against the C's last postseason when he was on the floor. He's a great 6th man, and he's cheap.

Personally, I don't want him back. I'm much happier with Mo Evans and if we need another swingman, I'd rather draft someone in the 2nd round like Danny Green. Childress doesn't shoot well enough from outside with his slow, awkward release and his foot speed makes him a defensive liability against most 2s and 3s. He's a good energy guy and has a nose for offensive rebounds, but that's as far as I'll go.

[LL Cool Scott]

D21 - I was probably exagerating (sp?) a bit. What I should have said is that the market for Childress was not nearly what he hoped it would be. I think we can keep him and have a very good glue guy for good value.

Evil - Fair enough. I like Mo Evans too. But we're going to lose at least one if not two of our top 8 this offseason (Woodson, like a lot of coaches, plays an 8 man rotation almost exclusively). If we could bring Mo, Flip, and Childress off the bench - that's a really good bench. And they're all relatively inexpensive.

[jagstang76]

Personally, I'd rather try and keep Chill if he wants to come back. No way he gets the same level of money he's getting in Europe here in the NBA, but he would have a chance to make this team a lot better. IMO, Flip is a solid #2 PG and has done an awesome job off the bench and filling in for Bibby. Evans has brought solid defense and scoring punch from outside. Chill would complement them well at the 3 by providing energy and inside scoring. I'm not sure how it could happen fiscally, but I would definitely try if I were the GM.

[evildallas]

D21 - I was probably exagerating (sp?) a bit. What I should have said is that the market for Childress was not nearly what he hoped it would be. I think we can keep him and have a very good glue guy for good value.

Evil - Fair enough. I like Mo Evans too. But we're going to lose at least one if not two of our top 8 this offseason (Woodson, like a lot of coaches, plays an 8 man rotation almost exclusively). If we could bring Mo, Flip, and Childress off the bench - that's a really good bench. And they're all relatively inexpensive.

I hear your point, but I've never agreed with the way Woodson used Childress. I don't want to go through that again. I'm seeing the bench next year as Flip (unless he's starting), Acie or a rookie PG (if Acie is dealt), Evans, and a replacement big (or 2). The caveat would be if Marvin is gone we'll need another wing (starting or bench). In that case, I would want that wing able to stretch the D with his shot. Strangely because I slam his foot speed, if we ran offensively with regularity then I would be happy to add Childress because it would minimize his half-court offensive shortcomings.

[raleigh]

I can't think of more than a handful of teams that would be willing to give Childress more than the MLE. I know the Spurs and Suns could use him, but what do they have that Atlanta would want?

[raleigh]

On second thought, Childress might actually be a good fit in Memphis. They're playing Quinton Ross some decent minutes in a similar role, but Childress has much better handles and bball IQ. A backcourt rotation of Conley/Jaric/Mayo/Childress/Gay is solid, and the Grizz have the room financially. Childress wouldn't take the ball out of the hands of Mayo, Gay, or the PF they're going to draft either.

With them being under the cap, Childress BYC isn't an issue, so you could do the trade for their late first rounder (via Orlando).

Just a thought...