Ben Gordon

[HMFFL]

Bulls guard Ben Gordon is one of just seven guards averaging 20 points per game and shooting over 45 percent from the field this season.

Gordon, who will become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, is believed by some to have more value to Chicago than most other NBA teams.

"People like to pick out Ben Gordon's flaws all the time, but the great majority of games I've coached against Ben, he has been tremendous," said a longtime NBA assistant coach. "I would agree that Ben is more valuable to the Bulls than most other teams."

Due to the current economic climate and the reported lack of interest in the guard, the Bulls might be able sign Gordon to the six-year, $54 million contract he turned down last offseason.

"He should have taken Chicago's initial contract two seasons ago and everyone would have been much happier," said the longtime assistant coach. "He got bad advice."

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How do you guys feel about Ben? I'm not suggesting we should pursue him, but he makes for a good discussion, and I could see us benefiting if he was part of our team. I'd like for him to be on Sund's shortlist of players if we can't bring back Mike Bibby. 9 million a year would scare me off like the six year deal he turn down from Chicago.

[HoopsGuru25]

I like Gordon more than others. He is a very efficient scorer and you could possibly get by with him playing pg as long as he's next to a SG like Joe. I'd also like to go after Ford or Hinrich with Speedy's expiring and something else.

It will be interesting to see what Gordon signs for in the off-season. The thought of him coming back to Chicago for $54 million seems unrealistic. They wouldn't have made the trade with Sac if they were willing to offer him the same exact deal that they did last year.

[tontoz]

Gordon isn't a bad idea at all. I don't know how well he can defend the point but he can probably do a lot better than Bibby. It is hard to say what kind of playmaker he is because he plays the 2 there. I doubt he will be creating for others much but he will definitely open up the court because he is a big time scorer.

Since he can routinely create his own shot we would probably see fewer crazy plays from Smith and fewer 15 dribble possessions from JJ.

The problem is that i don't think we will have the cap space to sign him unless we renounce the rights to all of our free agents, including Marvin.

[shortstuff5023]

he's mostly an upgraded version of flip murray. i'd rather go after a center so we can move al to the 4 for at least 15-20 minutes a game

[Skyhawk1]

I don't think he'd be a good fit here, but he can score at will. He's a true SG though, just like J. Terry and some "combo" guards are. That's my biggest problem with drafting or signing players to play at a different position. If you get him, you have to play him at SG, and we have JJ, so I don't see why we should try to get him. I like shortstuff idea much better.

[evildallas]

he's mostly an upgraded version of flip murray. i'd rather go after a center so we can move al to the 4 for at least 15-20 minutes a game

Name a worthwhile center that can be acquired? Can't think of one? Me either. I can see the logic with the sentiment of not investing so heavily in another G though.

I've no problem with Gordon as he has the skill set to replace Bibby, but price is an issue as is freeing up cap space to make an offer. Essentially, Marvin, Childress, and Bibby must be dealt with before the space exists to sign Gordon and I doubt that we have the pieces for a sign & trade (nor do I advocate that route). I'm more in favor of filling the position with a trade of Speedy's expiring contract to minimize total payroll this season, but that's a risky proposition as well because it takes 2 to tango.

I've been proposing for a while that Bibby could be resigned for 3 years between 25M and 30M. If Ben Gordon could be had in the same price range I'd be happy to get the younger guard as I worry about that 3rd year of Bibby's deal. However Bibby can be resigned without renouncing Marvin and Childress while Gordon cannot. If Gordon is on the market after Marvin has been dealt with (one way or another), I would have no problem with renouncing Childress to make a run at him.

[ATLCorey]

Gordon is a way underrated player. 3.5 APG at SG shows he can create for others and possibly play the PG.
But he turns the ball over a lot especially if he was stuck at PG so he is definetly not our best option.
Rather have Bibby back.

[ATL DirtyBird]

Gordon is a way underrated player. 3.5 APG at SG shows he can create for others and possibly play the PG.
But he turns the ball over a lot especially if he was stuck at PG so he is definetly not our best option.
Rather have Bibby back.

Corey? Ur a Atlanta fan and a michigan fan? Me too, my parents went there and I will to in 2 years. Thats awesome that im not the only michigan and atlanta fan in the world. sweett

[ATLCorey]

Yes both parents are from Michigan.
Clemson is goin down!

[ATL DirtyBird]

Ya were gonna murder those pussycats, to bad well get murdered by Oklahoma, but atleast we made it. Its been way to long

[ATLCorey]

Yeah Griffen would tear us up. I can't even rember the last time we were in the tourny

[NDaATL]

3.5 APG at SG shows he can create for others and possibly play the PG.

No, it doesn't. Gordon can't play PG at all. There are many better options than locking up Gordon to a nice contract for the next 5 years.

[Harry10]

i've been a gordan fan for year, and not so much Bibby.

as long as Ben can keep shooting 3s and Joe can keep averaging 6apg, then they would be deadly.

[JoshB914]

I don't think he would fit next to Joe. Gordon is a pure scoring guard in my opinion, and we've already got Joe providing that. I'd rather stick with Bibby if I had to choose between the two. He's a much smarter player and has shown the ability to run an offense much more efficiently than BG ever has.

[mr_grabb]

i've been a gordan fan for year, and not so much Bibby.

as long as Ben can keep shooting 3s and Joe can keep averaging 6apg, then they would be deadly.

See, I don't get this. How can you claim to be a fan of someone but still be unable to properly spell his name? Geez, GordON is only a 6 letters word, and it's really not that complicated. I see this kind crap on this board all the time, on quite simple names. I know it's no big deal at all. I just thought I'd share this. I'm sure Im not the only one who finds this funny.

Now my opinion on this is that even if we have Gordon draining 3's and giving 4 dimes per, as well as Joe avging 6ast per, that wouldnt work. Yes, Joe is having a decent avg of assists, but neither him or GordON are pgs. A pg is not defined only by being able to dish 5+ dimes per game. He must have the ability to create play and lead an offense. None can do that the way a real pg can. Bibby is far from perfect, but he's doing that far better than both Gordon and Joe. Plus a combo of Joe and Gordon would commit like 7 TOs per game, which is horrible. Imagine. That's worst that a 1/1.5 assist per turnover ratio. Horrible. And I bet Bibby could be signed for cheaper.

[HoopsGuru25]

mr grab....Mo Williams is the pg on the team with the best record in the East and he is averaging exactly 4 apg from the pg spot. I do not understand where this thought of Bibby being this true pg who sets every one up for easy baskets came from. He averages 5 assist a game. That's the same amount as AJ except in more minutes. We run just about every play through Joe so...therefore Bibby's shooting is much more valuable than his passing.

[niffoc4]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Hawks offense predicated on Joe controlling the ball in the half court and the PG mainly staying around the perimeter and shooting 3's? That's why Bibby fits and Jason Kidd (or Acie Law) doesn't right? Now why does a player need good PG skills to bomb from outside? On top of that isn't it Joe guarding the PG most of the time?
In light of this, I think that Gordon could work well, though he's probably too expensive.

[Harry10]

i've been a gordan fan for year, and not so much Bibby.

as long as Ben can keep shooting 3s and Joe can keep averaging 6apg, then they would be deadly.

See, I don't get this. How can you claim to be a fan of someone but still be unable to properly spell his name? Geez, GordON is only a 6 letters word, and it's really not that complicated. I see this kind crap on this board all the time, on quite simple names. I know it's no big deal at all. I just thought I'd share this. I'm sure Im not the only one who finds this funny.

i have a learning disability you insensitive bastard!

[Harry10]

^^^ not really sure how many teams would be interested in signing Ben. he is undersized, and would only be a good teammate with Wade, Lebron, Joe, Crawford

he will be more expensive than Bibby, but i'm not really sure if he will be that much more expensive.