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SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#1 » by HMFFL » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:31 am

• Josh Smith, Hawks. I'm starting with the biggest surprise of all. In previous years, a silhouette of Smith launching a poorly aimed three-pointer had been the logo for much of what was wrong with the league in the preexisting era of AAU phenoms drafted straight out of high school. But Smith definitely belongs on the All-Star team now. Simply connect the power forward's numbers -- 14.7 points, 8.0 rebounds, 2.1 blocks, 3.8 assists -- to Atlanta's eminence as the No. 4 contender in the East on track for a 54-win season.

"That kid has grown up immensely, and I'm stunned," an NBA pro personnel scout said. "I will tell you I hated him -- his body language, his physical displays and immaturity on the floor. But this year I've seen him sit on the bench and not get playing time in the fourth quarter because the lineup is doing well, and they call him in to get the tip to win the game. And he's not mad. In fact, he's up like he's their best cheerleader. I don't know what award he should get, but he should get something for making the most emotional growth."


"I came a long way as an athlete, as a player," Smith said. "Just understanding the strong points of my game and being able to help my teammates the most is by not shooting threes.

"I think I've come a long way, but I really think the media have come a long way, too, by being open-minded. Because they were very narrow-minded with me; they maybe listened to a lot of stuff that was untrue, and they just labeled me as being an athlete that had a [short] fuse on him or was uncoachable. I think they've grown and they really took time to see the player and understand the player instead of just judging me."

Having made the painful investment to develop him over the last five years, the Hawks deserve every benefit of Smith's strong play. At 24, he could become one of the league's dominant defenders as a hyperactive shot-blocker who controls the boards. And as his post moves continue to improve, his athleticism could make him unguardable in the paint. Best of all, he is showing qualities that win games, especially in the playoffs.

"What he does now is play to his strength -- blocking shots, rebounding, bringing energy -- and he's an excellent teammate," the scout said. "He has a certain flair, and if he got in [as an All-Star this year], he might be able to stay in the mix for another three or four years or more. He could be a special player, and I really can't believe I'm saying this, because I really didn't like him before this year."



• Al Horford, Hawks. Who would have guessed that Atlanta's undersized power forward-center combination of Smith and Horford would be All-Stars this year? But compare Horford's numbers to his rivals'. With 13.4 points, 9.9 rebounds and 1.3 blocks, his only meaningful competition (from a winning team) to become the No. 2 center in the East is Boston's Kendrick Perkins.

"I love Horford, primarily because he's an incredible locker-room guy," the Western scout said. "He instantly became a leader, which is astounding. His value is greater than his numbers, and he is contributing to a very good team."


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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#2 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:38 am

I dont think Josh makes it, but Al has been the quite consistent and I think he gets the nod over Lopez and Big Perk!
Is it to much to ask for a team that plays hard and cares? Seems so.
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#3 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:42 am

Glad to see a writer supporting them for making it. Kamla had Josh and Al 13th & 14th respectively just missing the squad (he opted for David Lee at backup C).
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#4 » by Harry10 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:16 am

SneakerKing33 wrote:I dont think Josh makes it, but Al has been the quite consistent and I think he gets the nod over Lopez and Big Perk!


really, i think Josh is a sure thing. let say they only take 2 PFs for the bench, well Bosh is surely going to make it (KG starting)

so really Josh only has to compete with Lee, Lewis, and Jamison.... and Smoove's numbers are better than all of those guys, and Lee and Jamison are on bad teams.

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Josh: 21.3
Lee: 21.1
Lewis: 14.5
Jamison: 20.5

as long as Josh keeps working hard and playing smart and his PER stays above 20, i think he should be fine, espeically with all the wins the Hawks are getting.

i'm not sure about Horford though. Horford's numbers are good, but Bogut and Lopez's number are good too, and it is really hard for me to over look that both Bogut and Lopez are putting up number and getting 2.0bpg. but if the coaches were smart they would easily take Al over those two, because the west has no more Shaq or Yao, and the All Star game is a run and gun up and down game, which is the type of game that Horford excels in.

in addition to Horford's chances, their are times were the east doesn't even select a back up center. i think last year the bench had Bosh and a bunch of SFs and SGs
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#5 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:12 am

Most writers I have read predictions from have Josh losing out to Gerald Wallace. It might come down to how many starters or other sure All-Stars need injury replacement (like will KG be healthy come All-Star game?) to determine how many deserving reserves get rewarded.
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Post#6 » by Harry10 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:01 pm

^ really? Wallace's PER is only 18.0
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Post#7 » by evildallas » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:42 pm

^ Didn't say I agreed with them. Just what I've read. Most tend to credit his rebounding totals, give him major props for defense, and I guess they are enamored with Charlotte's almost .500 record (good enough for 7th seed though). The strange thing is that most of these articles seem to ignore Josh's defensive importance (which I argue is every bit as impressive and important as Crash's) except possibly noting that he's among the leaders in blocks.
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#8 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:57 pm

Hey, I hope Josh makes it over Al. I think it would benefit him more. A great learnign experience and a confidence boost. Al doestn lack any confidence. Ill be happy for who ever makes it
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#9 » by Skyhawk1 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:17 pm

I believe Horford will make the team. He's not only having an outstanding year( when the Hawks pass him the ball), but he's also any coach's dream. He's as fundamental as they come. Smith would benefit more just because of confidence factor, but i don't think the coaches would vote him in, he's just too wild and inconsistent from a coach's perspective.
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#10 » by Master8492 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:59 am

I hope they both make it. Al Horford is a stud... if the Hawks has the play book from the Jazz and go pick and roll with Horford ...He would've probably get the all-star nod already. And Josh is probably the Hawks only interior defensive presence and is irreplaceable. He still need to hold the urge to shoot the long jumper... maybe he should try to glass them instead since it's probably have a higher chance of hitting the rim. And if he makes the all-star team, there's a chance to see him in the dunk contest which is nice.
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Re: SI: 5 Surprising All-Stars: Josh Smith & Al Horford 

Post#11 » by JoshB914 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:16 am

Good to see the "scouts" eating their words. I agree with Josh, the media was extremely close-minded when dealing with them. He was on a bad team and franchise and had a few public blow ups with the HC, so he became an easy target. Obviously he had some major issues with his game, but I never felt his work ethic or attitude could come into question.

I think Gerald Wallace will make the All Star team over Smoove. Hard to argue with 18/11.5 numbers.

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