Why the Hinrich Trade is worse than you think

[parson]

Last night, against the NBA's 8th best offense, Hinrich/Teague were terrific in disrupting Curry. THAT was impressive. That bodes well for the future.

Thing is, although we can say our PGs were great DEFENSIVELY, we have to remember they were playing one of the worst defensive teams. We have to downplay Hinrich/Teague's OFFENSIVE accomplishments, at least until they play against a good defense.

If they can run the offense against, say Boston, the way they ran last night, we'll be able to say the Hinrich trade was better than we could have possibly hoped for.

[D21]

I have to admit that the trade is worse than I thought :
the trade bring us $547,392 more than what we sent, and this money covers two players at the minimum salary, so we missed the opportunity to sign two bought-out players like Brewer, Butler or Murphy by making the trade.

Not we won't be better with the trade, but keeping Bibby and adding two players like that would have turned us better than only keeping Bibby.
Better than only Hinrich ? I don't know.

[parson]

With Hinrich and Teague, we now can put 5 good defenders on the court at the same time, with no one having to cover for Bibby. We have become a superior defensive team.

And all this is not considering what we'll look like when Hinrich learns the offense. This trade will get even better.

We've turned a major negative at PG into a wonderful upgrade on defense and a promising upgrade on offense. Sund made a great trade.

[djjob23]

I'm exited to have an upgrade at PG, but I feel we paid way too much for it. This will hurt us down the road once we see how good Jordan Crawford is and what we could have gotten with our pick. Sorry, 2 prospects for a vet is not something to go crazy over. With this trade, this gives us a 4 year window.

[parson]

With this trade, this gives us a 4 year window.

We'll have a 4 year window for the current starting lineup and, by then, Teague will have had every chance to grow into a real PG. If he does, his length, speed and quickness will make him a handful for the next few years after that.

This trade may have given us the players for 10-12 years of strong PG play.

If Drew has any idea - at all - of how to develop a PG...

[Skar]

Ever since he came here, I don't even think he broke 10 ptz yet.

[HoopsGuru25]

Tonight was the 1st time Hinrich started. Hinrich still looks like a combo guard offensively..but his defense was outstanding tonight. We're used to seeing the opposing pg in a comfort zone while Horford and Smith are playing 5 feet off him but Hinrich was was pressuring the crap out of Rose in that 2nd half.

[djjob23]

If Drew has any idea - at all - of how to develop a PG...

Thus... the reason why we only have a 4 year window.

[parson]

If Drew has any idea - at all - of how to develop a PG...

Thus... the reason why we only have a 4 year window.

Sigh. I wish I had a crushing retort. But you're right. Still, I can hope Drew figures out that he needs to develop Teague.

[clancy]

Thus... the reason why we only have a 4 year window.

Sigh. I wish I had a crushing retort. But you're right. Still, I can hope Drew figures out that he needs to develop Teague.

Fortunate, then, that the Hawks picked up not only a guy who can defend and contribute on offense, but also one who has been willing to help younger guards as they get acclimated to the league.

[djjob23]

Thus... the reason why we only have a 4 year window.

Sigh. I wish I had a crushing retort. But you're right. Still, I can hope Drew figures out that he needs to develop Teague.

Fortunate, then, that the Hawks picked up not only a guy who can defend and contribute on offense, but also one who has been willing to help younger guards as they get acclimated to the league.

Bibby was supposed to be that guy too right? If Hinrich can truly put Teague under his wing, then hallelujah! But it is too early to see what kind of effect he can make in Teague's development. All I have to say is, there needs to be someone on this coaching staff to tell Hinrich that if he wants to play here, then he needs to develop Jeff Teague. PERIOD!

Did Hinrich help mentor Rose or Wall? Hinrich has definitely been around rising stars and can probably contribute to Teague a lot. Teague is coachable, all we need is someone to step into the shoes.

[clancy]

Did Hinrich help mentor Rose or Wall? Hinrich has definitely been around rising stars and can probably contribute to Teague a lot. Teague is coachable, all we need is someone to step into the shoes.

Kirk would tell you that both are just incredibly talented kids, and that all he did was try to help them out a little, like vets did for him when he came into the league.

Both Derrick and John have said that Kirk helped them out a ton coming into the league. I remember a story from Derrick's rookie year about Kirk diagramming a play for him at the half that he was struggling with. Early on in Chicago, the word was the org was thrilled with how helpful he was, considering they handed his job to Derrick. (Not saying they shouldn't have done that, just that a lot of guys would not go out of there way to help while getting moved to the bench.) Even when he was out that year with a thumb injury, Derrick said Kirk was texting him encouragement and advice while the Bulls were on the road and Kirk was rehabbing in Chicago. And John said after the trade that Kirk had helped him a lot this season, helped with his defense, and just talking basketball.

[djjob23]

AWESOME!!! That's great to hear. Well... then there's hope yet for Teague. I really hope Hinrich can help his game.

[tigerbull]

Bulls fan here. I'm not a huge Hinrich fan, mainly because I've seen him play tenatively (on offense) in so many late-game situations in times when we needed him to be our lead guy. However, with him on your team...

What really could be interesting is after Hinrich and JJ have more time to gel, that is a big and great defensive backcourt.

[parson]

You're right but, man, I hate "wait 'till next year."

[HoopsGuru25]

This is not an "I told you so" post but there's no way you can watch the Hawks play right now and not recognize that Hinrich is a combo guard. It looks like Drew(like many other coaches)has realized that and gone with Teague as the pg.

[evildallas]

Right now I feel that if it took trading for Hinrich to get Teague into the lineup then it was worth it.

[parson]

I wish you were right, Hoops, but I think it was a combination of Horford out, Hinrich in foul trouble and Teague playing out of his head for him to stay on the court tonight.

Drew will find a way to bench Teague; watch.

[parson]

Gotta give Sund credit for looking ahead to next year: Jamal will be gone and we'll play Teague at point, Joe at 2 and Hinrich at both. We'll be flexible and very good defensively.