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What the FA Big Men want 

Post#1 » by HMFFL » Sat Dec 3, 2011 4:52 am

Tyson Chandler: $20.7 million
Nene: $17.7 million
Marc Gasol: $14.8 million

According to sources, Nene, Chandler and Gasol all set their early asking prices in the neighborhood of maximum-contract territory, starting at $14.8 million for Gasol, $17.7 annually for Nene, and $20.7 million for Chandler. There is plenty of crossover in their respective lists of salary-cap-friendly suitors, with the Nets, Rockets and Warriors appearing to be the hungriest shoppers, and the Pacers and Trail Blazers strolling the big man aisles as well.

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Post#2 » by MaceCase » Sat Dec 3, 2011 5:39 am

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Post#3 » by Superiorblogman » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:25 am

:lol: at Tyson Chandler getting that. :lol: At Nene getting that. Gasol might get that though, but he definitely has not proven he is worth it because it is more than Al got.
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Post#4 » by evildallas » Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:59 pm

Same old story, everyone wants the max they can be paid, not necessarily what they're worth. Chandler was a valuable piece on a championship team, but damn! He wasn't Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain. And he's not Dirk Nowitzki. He was already the 2nd highest paid Maverick. I'd think a nice raise would be in line, but 20.7M? Last year he made 12.6M. A very fair price tag for Dallas would be a raise to 16M with annual increases (even that feels high, but he's a big).

This sort of thing has frustrated me about the NBA's economic model for years. By creating a max contract that an individual can earn they've created an artificial number that can be demanded that isn't necessarily associated with the level of skill or value of contributions. That number is roughly the same whether you add substantially to franchise value by selling tickets(Kobe, Lebron, etc) or if you are just help a team win but don't move the box office otherwise (Joe Johnson, Tyson Chandler). They say no one forces the owners to pay these salaries, but all it takes is one
owner to lose reason. The system lowers everyone to the weakest owner and if owners actually use restraint they are always threatened with collusion complaints.

A stat comparison of those 3 and Al:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y4=2011

My final statement on this would be if you as an owner could only give 1 player a max contract would you give it to one of those 3 guys? I doubt it. You would want to save the max slot for someone you can market more or provides an even bigger on court impact. I'd suggest that each of those guys would be the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player on the team and likewise the 2nd or 3rd most important. You'd be setting yourself up to have financial issues if your 3rd best player gets 30-35% of the team payroll.
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Post#5 » by evildallas » Sat Dec 3, 2011 3:00 pm

BTW, any word of the salary demand in the bargain aisle for big men?
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Post#6 » by Ruhiel » Sat Dec 3, 2011 3:22 pm

Ironically Samuel Dalemebert is the smartest move available...
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Post#7 » by evildallas » Sat Dec 3, 2011 4:58 pm

I just read a Bill Simmons column that brought a key point home, there are more spenders than worthy free agents. These 3 bigs might just find buyers in this market.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/730 ... -christmas

From a sheer business point of view it would make sense for the ASG to not really do anything but fill the roster with minimum salary guys. With so many spenders in the market the Atlanta MLE would likely fetch someone who is more deserved of a minimum contract anyway. It's time to step back and hope continuity and internal development improves the team. We just aren't in a position to add a big piece (unless we work a huge deal and risk it turning out to be a rental).
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Post#8 » by HMFFL » Sat Dec 3, 2011 5:54 pm

Ruhiel wrote:Ironically Samuel Dalemebert is the smartest move available...


Or to not do anything except for add cheap depth to come off our bench.

Reggie Evans appeals to me but only at around $4 million per year.
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Post#9 » by ATL Boy » Sat Dec 3, 2011 8:02 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Ruhiel wrote:Ironically Samuel Dalemebert is the smartest move available...


Or to not do anything except for add cheap depth to come off our bench.

Reggie Evans appeals to me but only at around $4 million per year.

I agree preserve the Cap and hopefully get a good big man in the draft. Btw I really do like Reggie Evans as well, he's a great 3 pt shooter, something we really need.
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Post#10 » by HMFFL » Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:17 pm

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Ruhiel wrote:Ironically Samuel Dalemebert is the smartest move available...


Or to not do anything except for add cheap depth to come off our bench.

Reggie Evans appeals to me but only at around $4 million per year.

I agree preserve the Cap and hopefully get a good big man in the draft. Btw I really do like Reggie Evans as well, he's a great 3 pt shooter, something we really need.


The Reggie Evans that I am referring to is 1-9, 11.1% for his career from three line. He is more of a defensive guy that takes getting under his opponents skin to another level. Youtube Reggie Evans when he faced Chris Kaman.
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Post#11 » by Ruhiel » Sun Dec 4, 2011 2:09 am

HMFFL wrote:
Ruhiel wrote:Ironically Samuel Dalemebert is the smartest move available...


Or to not do anything except for add cheap depth to come off our bench.

Reggie Evans appeals to me but only at around $4 million per year.


That's patronizing. We aren't in the running for any of those center free agents.

Reggie :sleep: Evans is appealing because all we can afford is cheap depth! :evil:
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Post#12 » by ATL Boy » Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:57 am

[/quote]The Reggie Evans that I am referring to is 1-9, 11.1% for his career from three line. He is more of a defensive guy that takes getting under his opponents skin to another level. Youtube Reggie Evans when he faced Chris Kaman.[/quote]
Ah my appologies I was thinking of Reggie Williams from Golden State.
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Re: What the FA Big Men want 

Post#13 » by Ruhiel » Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:07 am

he grapped his testicles... ATL not a good fit

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Post#14 » by MaceCase » Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:05 am

Looks like a perfect fit to me
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Post#15 » by evildallas » Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:54 pm

Sometimes you need that crazy guy underneath that the other team fears. Sadly we don't have 4M in room to spend on anyone.
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Re: What the FA Big Men want 

Post#16 » by HMFFL » Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:02 pm

The Clippers are set to offer DeAndre Jordan $5yrs, $40 million.

Edited: Meant 5yrs.
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Re: What the FA Big Men want 

Post#17 » by MaceCase » Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:53 pm

HMFFL wrote:The Clippers are set to offer DeAndre Jordan $4yrs, $40 million.

I've read 5yrs and 40mil but I'm sure he's going to look for another team that can bump it up to 4 for 40.
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