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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#21 » by Superiorblogman » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:56 pm

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FCNATL85 wrote:Guys are you done. Bottom line is that if we do not trade up to get Drummond, some kind of a risk,
I stil thin that we could get a decent back-up C who might end up a starter or a big mistake 3 years from now. I prefer Ezeli' s physicality to start with...Ivan 3 inches taller.


Are you or anyone else done that is calling for Fab or Festus because it is obvious you don't get how to run anything. You have to 1st and foremost select a NBA caliber talent and neither of these two guys are that. End of story. Select a NBA caliber talent and player.

Dude stop living by stats. Adam Morrison, johnny flynn, Anthony Randolph, etc all look good in college, but now they don't..


Have I mentioned stats boy? There are very few players to ever make it with some of the apparent flaws that Festus and Fab have. I will not continue to go into them because you little boys have fooled yourselves like we should reach on a Center no matter what so it does not matter that I continue to point out raw numbers are only a part of what I look at. You boys fall in love to easy with your soft marsh mellow butts. You love to overlook the flaws of players that only hurt you in the long run. Hence, the Josh Smith love around here
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#22 » by Geaux_Hawks » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:07 am

Stopped reading after "boy". Just how illiterate and immature you are. No need for name calling. Oh yeah, to say we shouldn't reach for a guy like fab or ezeli at 23(which isn't much of a reach), but then you want to draft Drummond at whatever cost is even more of a reach. Dude has amazing physical tools and no real skill. You would think he would have dominated all of college basketball and put UConn on his back.
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Post#24 » by cavsfan_osiris » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:01 am

I want Fab Melo to be there so bad for the Cavs. I don't understand why he's projected so low in the draft.
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Post#25 » by FCNATL85 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:00 am

I agree that both at the moment are 2nd rd material... and we have the 23rd pick , no lottery.
I am only saying that i think that due to his pure physicality, I would rather gamble on Ezeli than Melo. Actually, if you look back at the begining of this draft conversation, unless we go for a trade, I always thought that Ezeli was worth taking a risk on at 23 considering the potential rewards. He might turn out to be the next Priest lauderdale but at least he will not be Koncak nor S. Williams!
On the final note, we can do without the "boy stuff", we would all be growing up!
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Post#26 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:15 am

FCNATL85 wrote:I agree that both at the moment are 2nd rd material... and we have the 23rd pick , no lottery.
I am only saying that i think that due to his pure physicality, I would rather gamble on Ezeli than Melo. Actually, if you look back at the begining of this draft conversation, unless we go for a trade, I always thought that Ezeli was worth taking a risk on at 23 considering the potential rewards. He might turn out to be the next Priest lauderdale but at least he will not be Koncak nor S. Williams!
On the final note, we can do without the "boy stuff", we would all be growing up!


Phuck your final note. We could do without dude or any other word to describe another poster other than the word he or she has chosen for there username. The boy called me a dude and I called him a boy. So, until we decide to address one another with the names we have chosen I don't see how boy is any worse than dude.
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#27 » by myrak433 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:45 am

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FCNATL85 wrote:I agree that both at the moment are 2nd rd material... and we have the 23rd pick , no lottery.
I am only saying that i think that due to his pure physicality, I would rather gamble on Ezeli than Melo. Actually, if you look back at the begining of this draft conversation, unless we go for a trade, I always thought that Ezeli was worth taking a risk on at 23 considering the potential rewards. He might turn out to be the next Priest lauderdale but at least he will not be Koncak nor S. Williams!
On the final note, we can do without the "boy stuff", we would all be growing up!


Phuck your final note. We could do without dude or any other word to describe another poster other than the word he or she has chosen for there username. The boy called me a dude and I called him a boy. So, until we decide to address one another with the names we have chosen I don't see how boy is any worse than dude.


Point well taken, buy normally the usage of the word Boy! (historically) is more derogatory than the work Dude! but that is neither here nor there. I get where you are coming from.

now back to the topic of this tread. Fab and/or Ezeli are no more a reach at 23 than Andre Drummond is in the top 5. he has more potiential to be a star than those two, but his bust potiential is greater as well. Drummond is not a finished product by any stretch of the imagination.
plus the expectation are going to be so much greater for Drummond than Melo or Ezeli... can he handle it? that remains to be seen.

if we somehow aquire Drummond that would mean that we got rid of one of Josh Smith or Horford. That would also mean that Drummond would have to step up immediately. when he simpley is not ready. all that would be asked of Melo or Ezeli would be rebound and block some shots.
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:51 am

Looks like the experts are coming to a consensus with us drafting Fab Melo. IF we stay put at 23. I have my concerns regarding his focus, but I think he can be a serviceable big man. He can't be worse than Jason Collins or Erick Dampier. and if he allows us to switch AL back to PF, then I'm all for it. But I'm going on record as thinking Andrew Nicholson will be the steal of this draft.

He looks like a stud.

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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#29 » by azuresou1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:04 am

Calling someone 'dude' is usually not offensive. Calling someone 'boy' is offensive on MULTIPLE levels.

On topic, I believe we SHOULD move up to get Drummond. Does he have some questionable character issues? Yeah, he does. He also has an NBA-ready body as a 19 year old. Besides, it's not like Josh, the player we'd probably trade to get Drummond, is some paragon of professionalism and maturity either.

Failing that, I REALLY like Tony Wroten Jr. at the 23. Ezeli and Fab Melo are okay, but they don't really wow me, and if Sullinger falls I'd much rather take him than either of those two guys.
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#30 » by myrak433 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:08 am

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Have I mentioned stats boy? There are very few players to ever make it with some of the apparent flaws that Festus and Fab have. I will not continue to go into them because you little boys have fooled yourselves like we should reach on a Center no matter what so it does not matter that I continue to point out raw numbers are only a part of what I look at. You boys fall in love to easy with your soft marsh mellow butts. You love to overlook the flaws of players that only hurt you in the long run. Hence, the Josh Smith love around here


now this is funny to me. you do not like Josh Smith but are in love with Horford.... ok no problem with that Horford is you favorite player on the Hawks. that is your prerogative. but Josh is a better player than Horford. and I really don't care that horford has been in the all star games and Josh has not. Horford has been and All star a few times as a center in the east. Hell before this year the east only had one legit center Dwight. Now they have two Tyson maybe three with the Hibbert on the rise. Horford may not see another All star game. But Josh had to compete with guys like Lebron, Carmelo, Garnett, Deng, Pierce, Stoudemire… you get where I am coming from. If Josh had the same kind of competition the Horford had he would have been and All Star a long time ago.
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#31 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:10 am

Look man, I don't want to argue anymore I can not convince you guys to come to the light and understand that Fab and Festus are bums. You will have to see for yourselves
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Post#32 » by azuresou1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:14 am

I have both Ezeli and Melo projected as decent backup guys. I would be more comfortable taking them in the second, but I recognize that in the league you pay a premium for size, hence why I'm okay with them in the first (as long as Wroten isn't there.)

In the second round, I like Scott Machado, assuming we don't take Wroten. Reminds me of Calderon, which would be great value then.
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#33 » by myrak433 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:40 am

Melo looks like he has a skill set that will certainly translate to the NBA. we I feel he has more than one.

passing for a big

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3zRtyDkTQ[/youtube]

of course defense and shoot blocking

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6JdKpazwRE&feature=relmfu[/youtube]and even rebounding which he needs a little work with but he still can do it and at 7'0" it shouldn't be to hard to get better.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBk-t40Db6Y&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

and here he is putting it all together

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvB9aZypXK4[/youtube]
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Re: Fab Melo working out 

Post#34 » by parson » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:30 pm

Anybody can say anyone will flop - and have a chance to be "right." The NBA is a tough level and we can't look into the prospects' heart and see what drives them.

But Melo has the length, skills and agility to be good ... if he wants to be.

I'm still torn between Melo and Ezeli. Melo seems to have the higher ceiling but Ezeli seems to be the surer bet. Best news of all, I think, is the fact that both players were still improving this year.
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