Anthony Tolliver

myrak433 · Post #1 » by **myrak433** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:34 am

seems like the Hawks may have some intrest.

not sure how much truth but here is a link

http://sulia.com/channel/nba-free-agenc ... ce=twitter

dtown8 · Post #2 » by **dtown8** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:45 am

when is Ferry going to finally get a SF or Center?

myrak433 · Post #3 » by **myrak433** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:25 am

he must have promised Smoove that he was going to be the starting SF. if so than Krover is the back-up. and guess Morrow is the third. so I believe that Danny Ferry may feel we are set at SF.

Rip2137 · Post #4 » by **Rip2137** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:37 pm

Morrows a 2 and even if not, he is better than Korver.

I honestly think Jenkins is the odd man out here.

But at the end of the day Teague, Harris, Williams, Morrow and Stevenson are all guys good enough to log minutes at 2 spots. Ferry has to move someone.

td00 · Post #5 » by **td00** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:04 pm

Well, if we know LD, and we do, Jenkins is in a tough spot. He's got 4 vets in front of him and if you give Korver any minutes at the 3, forget about him getting rebounds. I can see Stevenson playing the 3 though.

Lou / Morrow / Korver and Jenkins is excellent depth at the 2. I see Stevenson getting the minutes against top scorers though and LD will compensate with getting points elsewhere.

Korver making too much to be sitting and watching IMO. I think he will get the Hinrich treatment until he proves otherwise.

myrak433 · Post #6 » by **myrak433** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:18 pm

Rip2137 wrote:Morrows a 2 and even if not, he is better than Korver.

I honestly think Jenkins is the odd man out here.

But at the end of the day Teague, Harris, Williams, Morrow and Stevenson are all guys good enough to log minutes at 2 spots. Ferry has to move someone.

We have four players that I am almost sure will long minutes at the two over Morrow, unless one of them are traded. they are Jenkins, Teague, Harris, and Williams. I do think that Morrow is more of a 2 than a 3. but on this team i see him playing the 3 more along with Smoove( with him playing some 4 but more 3 this season), Korver, and Stevenson. Morrow, he is 6'6" he can handle it.

now that is how I would have the depth chart

Harris/ Teague
Williams/ Jenkins
Smoove/ Krover
Horford/ Ivan
Zaza/ Petro

but knowing LD he will run with

Harris/ Teague
Williams/ Morrow
Korver/ Stevenson
Smoove/ Ivan
Horford/ Zaza

which isn't bad I just believe we need more size in the front court since the back court is so small now.

ACE_reppin_ATL · Post #7 » by **ACE_reppin_ATL** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:50 pm

I would like to see the depth chart as follows:

C - Zaza / Petro / Jordan
PF - Horford / Ivan / Scott
SF - Smoove / Korver
SG - Morrow / Lou Will / Jenkins / Stevenson (DEF situations)
PG - Teague / Devin

I think with Lou, Devin, and Ivan being our primary backups, our team could really be more competitive vs 2nd units which may directly lead to win enough to make the Playoffs.

dtown8 · Post #8 » by **dtown8** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:03 pm

^^ i don't see Harris starting over Teague, because Harris is just a one year rental and Teague at 23yr is better than Harris.

myrak433 · Post #9 » by **myrak433** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:08 pm

ACE_reppin_ATL wrote:I would like to see the depth chart as follows:

C - Zaza / Petro / Jordan
PF - Horford / Ivan / Scott
SF - Smoove / Korver
SG - Morrow / Lou Will / Jenkins / Stevenson (DEF situations)
PG - Teague / Devin

I think with Lou, Devin, and Ivan being our primary backups, our team could really be more competitive vs 2nd units which may directly lead to win enough to make the Playoffs.

I don't think that Morrow will start. not sure i would want him to. I believe that devin will out shine Teague. I know there is a good number of Teague fans. but Harris does the same thing teague does only better. I could see Teague starting at the point and Harris starting at the two with Williams backing both up. but I don't see Morrow in any circumstance starting over either Teague, Williams, or Harris.

Post #10 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:23 pm

dtown8 wrote:^^ i don't see Harris starting over Teague, because Harris is just a one year rental and Teague at 23yr is better than Harris.

Harris is indeed a rental. But LD is coaching for his job. If Harris has a good camp, I could see him emerging as a starter at PG or SG.

In his best season, Harris avg 21 ppg and 7 apg. And that was on a bad NJ team. Teague has more potential, but Harris is an established vet who's been an All Star, played in the NBA Finals and has avg 20+ ppg.

I predict Harris will snag one of the starting guard spots in a contract year.

myrak433 · Post #11 » by **myrak433** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:10 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
dtown8 wrote:^^ i don't see Harris starting over Teague, because Harris is just a one year rental and Teague at 23yr is better than Harris.

Harris is indeed a rental. But LD is coaching for his job. If Harris has a good camp, I could see him emerging as a starter at PG or SG.

In his best season, Harris avg 21 ppg and 7 apg. And that was on a bad NJ team. Teague has more potential, but Harris is an established vet who's been an All Star, played in the NBA Finals and has avg 20+ ppg.

I predict Harris will snag one of the starting guard spots in a contract year.

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tha best · Post #12 » by **tha best** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:04 am

idk what my opening depth chart would look like, but if we keep everyone we currently have, I would like to see this depth chart by mid season.

Teague/Harris
Jenkins/Williams/Morrow
Smith/Korver/Stevenson
Horford/Ivan/Scott
Zaza/Petro/Jordan

This roster is pretty versatile as far as positions go. Zaza could play a little PF with Petro playing Center some. We can put Horford at Center some and move Smith to PF. I also think Teague, Harris and Willams can/will see time at both guard spots. What do you guys think the minutes for each player will be?

myrak433 · Post #13 » by **myrak433** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:07 am

I hope Teague outplays Harris. but I just feel that Harris is a better point(player) than Teague. so I believe that at some point Harris will surpass Teague on the Depth Chart. I hope we get one more big...... I would like it if the Hawks get Andray Blatche on a one year deal. I believe he would be motivated to play well for another contract.

Now before you laugh, if Blatche was on this team he would be our best option at the 5 or at the very least play some 5 to relieve Horford. Line up I would like to see

Harris/ Teague
Williams/ Jenkins
Smoove/ Korver
Horford/ Blatche/ Ivan
Zaza/ Blatche
Morrow
Stevenson
Petro
with either Benson or Jordan Williams

myrak433 · Post #14 » by **myrak433** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:29 am

Harris/ Teague
Williams/ Jenkins
Smoove/ Korver
Horford/ Blatche/ Ivan
Zaza/ Blatche
Morrow
Stevenson
Petro

Harris to play 35 minutes 25 at point and 10 at SG
Teague to play 26 minutes 20 at point 6 at SG
Williams to play 35 minutes 25 at SG 10 at point
Smoove to play 30 minutes 25 at SF 5 at PF
Korver to play 10 minutes at SF
Morrow to play 8 minutes at SF
Horford to play 30 minutes 20 minutes at PF and 10 at Center
Zaza to play 23 minutes at Center
Blatche to play 28 minutes 15 at cente and 13 at PF
Ivan to play 15 minutes at PF

Post #15 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:46 am

Blatche as a one year rental could be worth a look. Washington's problem was always that they collected lazy, immature knuckleheads while providing no true leadership.

Javale McGee proved that on a solid team with a real Head Coach, he could be a productive player. I see Blatche doing something similar on better team.

Post #16 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:52 am

tha best wrote:idk what my opening depth chart would look like, but if we keep everyone we currently have, I would like to see this depth chart by mid season.

Teague/Harris
Jenkins/Williams/Morrow
Smith/Korver/Stevenson
Horford/Ivan/Scott
Zaza/Petro/Jordan

I just wonder if there's enough ball handling in this group.
If Teague is the only guard who can create his own shot, I'm full court pressing that lineup until a second ball handler comes out on the floor. jenkins can shoot, but if you get in his face and pressure him one-on-one, he seems limited.
And Zaza's man would be free to roam on defense as Mr. Pachulia has bricks where his hands should be.

Athletic, defensive teams like OKC, Miami, Brooklyn, Chicago would kill this lineup and score a number of points in transition.

Ruhiel · Post #17 » by **Ruhiel** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:56 pm

haha who's picking up fullcourt for Brooklyn? Deron or Joe? We'll see I guess. But its a damn shame that wasnt the depth chart last year when we had Joe still (with Zaza in over Marvin).

tha best · Post #18 » by **tha best** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:18 pm

Teague-31 minutes
Harris-25 minutes
Williams-28 minutes
Jenkins-21 minutes
Smith-32 minutes
Korver-11 minutes
Stevenson-7 minutes
Horford-33 minutes
Zaza-25 minutes
Ivan-15 minutes
Petro-12 minutes

that would be my rotation

Post #19 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:28 pm

tha best wrote:Teague-31 minutes
Harris-25 minutes
Williams-28 minutes
Jenkins-21 minutes
Smith-32 minutes
Korver-11 minutes
Stevenson-7 minutes
Horford-33 minutes
Zaza-25 minutes
Ivan-15 minutes
Petro-12 minutes

that would be my rotation

I expect both Josh Smith and Al Horford to play 35+ minutes. Playing them less makes no sense to me.

Rip2137 · Post #20 » by **Rip2137** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:28 pm

You forgot Morrow in there (who is better than Korver and has the experience to be better defensively than Jenkins).

Plus, for that rotation to work, I am pretty sure eventually you are going to have to play 4 pf/C's or 4 guards at the same time.