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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#21 » by GrimeyKidd » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:06 am

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Rip2137 wrote:Yeah, al has been hot garbage all night but lets pin this one on Josh. Al hasn't blocked out, is getting beat up the court by a slower Lopez, got worked offensively by Lopez, bad on the offensive end...but yeah Josh turned the ball over so screw all that. You guys are hilarious.


AL had a bad game. No doubt.

Just more proof that we need a real center to bang against the 7-footers.

AL needs to get healthy.

We need depth in the frontcourt.

Try not to take the criticism of Josh so personally. He has been up and down his entire career.

AL Horford is not a center.



I'm not taking it personally, I am looking at the nonsense and just shaking my head. Lopez didn't have a good game because he is bigger than Al, AL DIDN"T BLOCK OUT. At all. He was standing flat footed out of position so many times in this game it was embarrassing. Yet you guys completely ignored it and waited until josh had those 2 turnovers in the 2nd to say "Wow, Josh is terrible" Its just plain silly at this point that you guys will ignore ANYTHING in a attempt to blame Josh Smith for everything.

No body can walk into that lockerroom feeling happy with how they played (except John Jenkins who was energetic and active on d all night, hit his shots and didn't get lazy) but to point out ONE guy? Especially when the guy next to him played HORRIBLY? nonsense.

The funny thing I am not even that big of a Josh Smith fan. Just around here I find myself having to defend him so much because you guys are so over the top with the critisim


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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#22 » by Skyhawk1 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:10 am

The more Josh Smith handles the ball the worse the Hawks get. He's a train wreck out of control on the offensive and lacks all the focus and effort on the defensive one. Al had a terrible game. Anyway, that's how bad the Hawks front-court really is, a guy like Lopez becomes unstoppable.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#23 » by Rip2137 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:15 am

The thing I am hating is the enablers on this team. Josh gets the rebound and EVERYONE gets out of dodge on a lot of plays. Its plain ridiculous. EVERYTIME there should be a guard looking for the ball, but I am watching them turn their heads and just GOING. Hell, I have seen Al pass Josh the ball instead of Teague.

If you have a guy that is going to make moronic plays, don't put him in the position to make moronic plays.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#24 » by parson » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:16 am

No, Rip, you ought to listen to them. Sure, Horford's looking weak out there. I mentioned that earlier. The way he worked hard at the end is the same way he played the last time we found out he was hurt: it's like he saving himself for the last minutes. I also mentioned that Teague looks as if he just cares about his stats. I think he thought, with NO coming in, he'd just throw up big numbers and be a star.

But Smith was pouting, complaining, jogging up the court with the ball, losing the ball on carelessness, not blocking his man out, not giving effort on his rebounding. We got outworked - in a big way - by a lousy team.

And, down the stretch, he really does not think. He kills us at the end of games.

I love the guy. I've always raved about his fire and desire to be a superstar. If Marvin Williams had had 1/10th of Smith's fire, he'd have been worth the 1st overall pick. I don't want to lose the guy; I just want him to grow up. He gets paid millions of dollars to play a GAME. He ought to be happy and he ought to play like he cares and he ought to play like a professional. I heard him, a few weeks ago on the NBA network, say he was a "student of the game." He's lucky those old pros didn't laugh in his face.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#25 » by Rip2137 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:23 am

parson wrote:No, Rip, you ought to listen to them. Sure, Horford's looking weak out there. I mentioned that earlier. The way he worked hard at the end is the same way he played the last time we found out he was hurt. I also mentioned that Teague looks as if he just cares about his stats. I think he thought, with NO coming in, he'd just throw up big numbers and be a star.

But Smith was pouting, complaining, jogging up the court with the ball, losing the ball on carelessness, not blocking his man out, not giving effort on his rebounding. We got outworked - in a big way - by a lousy team.

And, down the stretch, he really does not think. He kills us at the end of games.

I love the guy. I've always raved about his fire and desire to be a superstar. If Marvin Williams had had 1/10th of Smith's fire, he'd have been worth the 1st overall pick. I don't want to lose the guy; I just want him to grow up. He gets paid millions of dollars to play a GAME. He ought to be happy and he ought to play like he cares and he ought to play like a professional. I heard him, a few weeks ago on the NBA network, say he was a "student of the game." He's lucky those old pros didn't laugh in his face.



And I agreed with you on Horford when you said it. But tonight, he just didn't work hard at all. That game in Minnesota where Al got worked on the boards and scored on, that was size. Tonight he was the worse player on the court. Horfords man outworked him tonight. Vasquez out worked Teague tonight.

Josh "killing us" in the 4th, if Kyle or Jeff hit those threes he found them for with perfect passes he A: Has 10 assist B: we are looking at a different game. Again, he had a bad turnover and missed a three. That three he DID hit was HUGE(bad shot by the way, but huge). I am not saying Josh was great or anything, I am saying I don't think there was a way objectively to watch that game and ignore just how bad AL was and heap the fault on Josh.

Hell, why is NOONE mentioning what Vasquez did to Teague? You would think the opposing point guard going for a triple double might bring some blame, but no. Josh.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#26 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:24 am

Rip2137 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Rip2137 wrote:Yeah, al has been hot garbage all night but lets pin this one on Josh. Al hasn't blocked out, is getting beat up the court by a slower Lopez, got worked offensively by Lopez, bad on the offensive end...but yeah Josh turned the ball over so screw all that. You guys are hilarious.


AL had a bad game. No doubt.

Just more proof that we need a real center to bang against the 7-footers.

AL needs to get healthy.

We need depth in the frontcourt.

Try not to take the criticism of Josh so personally. He has been up and down his entire career.

AL Horford is not a center.



I'm not taking it personally, I am looking at the nonsense and just shaking my head. Lopez didn't have a good game because he is bigger than Al, AL DIDN"T BLOCK OUT. At all. He was standing flat footed out of position so many times in this game it was embarrassing. Yet you guys completely ignored it and waited until josh had those 2 turnovers in the 2nd to say "Wow, Josh is terrible" Its just plain silly at this point that you guys will ignore ANYTHING in a attempt to blame Josh Smith for everything.

No body can walk into that lockerroom feeling happy with how they played (except John Jenkins who was energetic and active on d all night, hit his shots and didn't get lazy) but to point out ONE guy? Especially when the guy next to him played HORRIBLY? nonsense.

The funny thing I am not even that big of a Josh Smith fan. Just around here I find myself having to defend him so much because you guys are so over the top with the critisim


Just let it go. Soon he will be gone and there will be no more scapegoats to blame. We will see just how much Josh meant to this team, and how much impact he will have for his next team. I'm hoping Houston makes a run at him and turn into a legit contender.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#27 » by ATL Boy » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:30 am

Rip2137 wrote:I did, and unlike you did, I didn't try to pin it on one guy and blow up what he did.

Josh had 5 points(1-2 on threes) 2 assist, 1 turnover and 1 foul.

If you think THAT was the difference I wonder how you felt about Al's missing freethrows, missing rotations, letting Lopez run free up the court for a dunk, causing one of the turnovers by not rolling after the pick in the P&R...

Ryan Anderson hit 2 threes in the 4th. Josh wasn't on the court for one of them and he was contesting the other and it was just a great shot. Anderson also scored on Al in the post and was wide open for a jumper that Al left him open for. You SOMEHOW missed that.

The reason the game got out of control was because of a lot of things, but pinning in on Josh takes so much straw grasping, I don't know why you just don't blame Pargo as it has just as much merit.

I'm not saying that Al isn't at fault, but Al isn't the one who threw the ball away when we were down 7, then not contest Gordon's layup, then take a 3 early in the shot clock. And then when we were down 5 and making our move he didn't foul the Jumpshooter Josh kept running the fast break (as usual) he took bad 3s in the game (as usual) and he just doesn't care, he's just one cool dude who doesn't care about what's best for the team. And no that Anderson 3 wasn't "just a great shot" Josh didn't switch over and came late trying to contest it after it was out of Anderson's hands. Granted Al had a really bad game but even with that we were only down 5 late in the 4th, it was Josh trying to be "the man" that did us in.
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Re: New Orleans Pelicans v Atlanta Hawks 

Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Feb 9, 2013 4:00 am

Why is Josh TEARING OUR TEAM APART?

I suspect the Hawks will react to Josh's departure the same way Boston is reacting to Rondo's departure.

Every other player on the floor steps up and takes advantages of the extra PT, shots, opportunities.

AL played bad tonight. (He does look hurt, sore, overmatched against other bigs.)

Josh had great numbers, but played like numbnuts.

PAR for the course.

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