Prospects at Positions of Need

[GrimeyKidd]

1st Round
Dario Saric SF/PF 6'10 225 Croatia

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNqpjnuUvqQ[/youtube]

Jeff Withey C 7'0 235 Kansas

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbd1mP8yYQw[/youtube]

2nd Round

Michael Snaer SG 6'5 200 Florida State

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke3umJyQ3gw[/youtube]

Robert Covington SF 6'9 230 Tennesee State

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHP0RPYSb1o[/youtube]

[ATL Boy]

I would not mind getting Saric, I've followed him in Croatia and he's a 6'10 true SF which is crazy

[Jamaaliver]

Are we all agreed on which positions we actually need to shore up?

I think we have PF covered with Josh and/or AL and/or Ivan. (I suspect at least two of them will be back nxt season.)

I think we are covered at PG with Teague and/or Devin and/or Lou. (I suspect at least two of them will be back next season. I'd be okay with an upgrade at this position though.)

Korver has to be brought back with a chance to start, unless there's a massive upgrade available. he's earned it.

So I'd say we need to find a starting Center, starting and backup SF.

[myrak433]

Are we all agreed on which positions we actually need to shore up?

I think we have PF covered with Josh and/or AL and/or Ivan. (I suspect at least two of them will be back nxt season.)

I think we are covered at PG with Teague and/or Devin and/or Lou. (I suspect at least two of them will be back next season. I'd be okay with an upgrade at this position though.)

Korver has to be brought back with a chance to start, unless there's a massive upgrade available. he's earned it.

So I'd say we need to find a starting Center, starting and backup SF.

this is the first post I totally agree with you.

[Jamaaliver]

this is the first post I totally agree with you.

Mathematically, I guess it was bound to happen.

I once actually agreed with MonsterBlock...er, I mean dtown.

[Rip2137]

I think we need to look at solifiying the front court. Zaza, I just don't think he can be counted on anymore. His physical style is just catching up with him and he is near his last contract anyway(I never bought that he was as young as they say he is).

I LOVE Ivan Johnson, but honestly, we need some big to come in for us off the bench, or spot start like Collins could only not be completely worthless. I would love Dalembert in this role, although I am not sure how accepting of a occasional starting role he would be(this of course if we bring Josh back).

[tcorbin]

Regardless if Ferry can get Dwight and keep Josh, or not, then the smart thing to do, would be to trade both picks to move up a few spots and get a guy like Mason Plumlee, Isaiah Austin, Alex Len, or Marcus Smart, because the team has so much cap flexibility that i wouldn't want to waste a roster spot on a second rookie.

for instance, it can either go:

Dwight/Zaza
Horford/Plumlee
Josh/
Korver/Jenkins/Morrow
Teague/Louis

or

Al Jefferson/Zaza
Horford/Isaiah Austin
Korver/(Odom or Jamison)
Jenkins/Morrow
Teague/Louis

[tcorbin]

Regardless if Ferry can get Dwight and keep Josh, or not, then the smart thing to do, would be to trade both picks to move up a few spots and get a guy like Mason Plumlee, Isaiah Austin, Alex Len, or Marcus Smart, because the team has so much cap flexibility that i wouldn't want to waste a roster spot on a second rookie.

for instance, it can either go:

Dwight/Zaza
Horford/Plumlee
Josh/
Korver/Jenkins/Morrow
Teague/Louis

or

Al Jefferson/Zaza
Horford/Isaiah Austin
Korver/(Odom or Jamison)
Jenkins/Morrow
Teague/Louis

[gurpilo]

I think the positions of need are Starting SG, SF and C

Don't think we should move up on the draft by losing one pick to draft Plumlee, in fact I think picks from 6-20 are very similar talent wise. A look to the prospects at this positions, all could be available

C: Isaiah Austin, Rudy Gobert, Jeff Witthey
SF: Otto Porter, Poythress, Glenn Robinson
SG: Goodwin, Kaldwell Pope

Anyway probably the best talent available there could be McDoo and Burke and I would select them, we are thin at all positions.

[tcorbin]

^ I couldn't disagree more about SG and SF. Jenkins has been playing good, and just like Teague a few years ago when he as drafted, Jenkins is being prepped to become a starter. as for SF, SFs are dime a dozen, and in addition, the 2013 draft class for SFs seems weaker than usual.

as for center, i feel it is worth trading away a pick to move up to get a better quality center in this year's draft. i have Noel and Zeller on first tier, then Len, Plumlee, and Austin on 2nd tier, then Willie Cauley-Stein and Gobert on 3rd teir. Plumlee is an ACC big and producing on a high level which always translates well to the NBA, and Austin, even though needs to bulk up and is labled as soft, he is rebounding at a hight rate in college, which also translates well in the NBA. I don't have Willie Cauley-Stein on the same level as the other two, because he is kind of a gamble, because even though he moves well, he is a freshmen and not producing at a high rate, so he is a "gamble", and Gobert is a classic foreign big who big and tall and "raw", and those guys don't have a high success rate in the NBA.

[gurpilo]

^ I couldn't disagree more about SG and SF. Jenkins has been playing good, and just like Teague a few years ago when he as drafted, Jenkins is being prepped to become a starter. as for SF, SFs are dime a dozen, and in addition, the 2013 draft calls for SFs seems weaker than usual.

as for center, i feel it is worth trading away a pick to move up to get a better quality center in this year's draft. i have Noel and Zeller on first tier, then Len, Plumlee, and Austin on 2nd tier, then Willie Cauley-Stein and Gobert on 3rd teir. Plumlee is an ACC big and producing on a high level which always translates well to the NBA, and Austin, even though needs to bulk up and is labled as soft, he is rebounding at a hight rate in college, which also translates well in the NBA. I don't have Willie Cauley-Stein on the same level as the other two, because he is kind of a gamble, because even though he moves well, he is a freshmen and no producing at a high rate, so he is a "gamble", and Gobert is a classic foreign big who big and tall and "raw", and those guys don't have a high success rate in the NBA.

HAHAHA!!! Just the opposite man!!! Jenkins has not shown anything that make us think he can be a starter, no way he can start on a good NBA team now, not next year, we have no starter at SG.

SF are not dime a dozen, next year's free agent only includes Dorrell Wright, Corey Brewer and Matt Barnes, marginal starters at best although Wright could be a good fit. 2013 draft class is not weak at SF, in fact it's one of the strong positions, Otto Porter, Poythress, Robinson and even Saric are good prospects. All of them will be better than the available FAs.

And about the C, agreed Norel, Zeller and Alex Len are good prospects at C, the strongest position in this draft but all are out of reach, all of them will go on the first 6 positions and I see no chances of tradin up and be able to draft them, no one would change 6th pick for 13th and 18th, not in this draft an of course I would if we can. About the others you ara quoting, here is the comparison for all of them.

Mason Plumlee - Yi Yianlian
Isaiah Austin - Johnatan Bender.

How in hell these two guys will help us to have a starting Center?

As I said, aside from Norel, Muhammad, McLemore, Zeller, Len and probably Bennett, the rest of the picks from 6-20 have quite similar value and I would not trade up unless we can get one of the first 5.

[tcorbin]

HAHAHA!!! Just the opposite man!!! Jenkins has not shown anything that make us think he can be a starter, no way he can start on a good NBA team now, not next year, we have no starter at SG.

SF are not dime a dozen, next year's free agent only includes Dorrell Wright, Corey Brewer and Matt Barnes, marginal starters at best although Wright could be a good fit. 2013 draft class is not weak at SF, in fact it's one of the strong positions, Otto Porter, Poythress, Robinson and even Saric are good prospects. All of them will be better than the available FAs.

And about the C, agreed Norel, Zeller and Alex Len are good prospects at C, the strongest position in this draft but all are out of reach, all of them will go on the first 6 positions and I see no chances of tradin up and be able to draft them, no one would change 6th pick for 13th and 18th, not in this draft an of course I would if we can. About the others you ara quoting, here is the comparison for all of them.

Mason Plumlee - Yi Yianlian
Isaiah Austin - Johnatan Bender.

How in hell these two guys will help us to have a starting Center?

As I said, aside from Norel, Muhammad, McLemore, Zeller, Len and probably Bennett, the rest of the picks from 6-20 have quite similar value and I would not trade up unless we can get one of the first 5.

Wow, not only are your comments wrong, but really bad as well. if you think Mason Plumlee is like Yi Yianlian, then it is clear that you have really bad scouting skills and a very low basketball IQ

it is very obvious that you never watched Plumlee if you think he is Yi, because their games are nothing alike, i just don't know were you got that comparison or if you are just making it up as you go along.

as for Isaiah Austin, him and Johnathan Bender have the same body type, but that is it. Austin is averaging 10 rebounds a game in college, and Johnathan Bender was a horrible rebounder.

your comparisons are so bad, it actually makes it not worth discussing with you

as for Jenkins, you could not be more wrong again. as a rookie Teague average 3.2ppg shooting .390FG, and Jenkins average 4.8ppg, and shooting .425FG. i guess you like Mike Woodson, didn't believe in Teague when he was a rookie and the Hawks should have given up on him like you want to give up on Jenkins. it makes me glad you're not the GM

[gurpilo]

HAHAHA!!! Just the opposite man!!! Jenkins has not shown anything that make us think he can be a starter, no way he can start on a good NBA team now, not next year, we have no starter at SG.

SF are not dime a dozen, next year's free agent only includes Dorrell Wright, Corey Brewer and Matt Barnes, marginal starters at best although Wright could be a good fit. 2013 draft class is not weak at SF, in fact it's one of the strong positions, Otto Porter, Poythress, Robinson and even Saric are good prospects. All of them will be better than the available FAs.

And about the C, agreed Norel, Zeller and Alex Len are good prospects at C, the strongest position in this draft but all are out of reach, all of them will go on the first 6 positions and I see no chances of tradin up and be able to draft them, no one would change 6th pick for 13th and 18th, not in this draft an of course I would if we can. About the others you ara quoting, here is the comparison for all of them.

Mason Plumlee - Yi Yianlian
Isaiah Austin - Johnatan Bender.

How in hell these two guys will help us to have a starting Center?

As I said, aside from Norel, Muhammad, McLemore, Zeller, Len and probably Bennett, the rest of the picks from 6-20 have quite similar value and I would not trade up unless we can get one of the first 5.

Wow, not only are your comments wrong, but really bad as well. if you think Mason Plumlee is like Yi Yianlian, then it is clear that you have really bad scouting skills and a very low basketball IQ

it is very obvious that you never watched Plumlee if you think he is Yi, because their games are nothing alike, i just don't know were you got that comparison or if you are just making it up as you go along.

as for Isaiah Austin, him and Johnathan Bender have the same body type, but that is it. Austin is averaging 10 rebounds a game in college, and Johnathan Bender was a horrible rebounder.

your comparisons are so bad, it actually makes it not worth discussing with you

as for Jenkins, you could not be more wrong again. as a rookie Teague average 3.2ppg shooting .390FG, and Jenkins average 4.8ppg, and shooting .425FG. i guess you like Mike Woodson, didn't believe in Teague when he was a rookie and the Hawks should have given up on him like you want to give up on Jenkins. it makes me glad you're not the GM

Umm, really!! Don't discuss with me, don't kill the messenger, discuss with these guys that probably know nothing about NCAA players compared to your great knowledge, as we all know one of the most appreciated opinions on draf picks

By the way and for your information, perhaps you don't know them but they are supposed to be one of the most appreciated opinion and web pages on mock drafts, I'm sure they have seen Plumlee and Austin play more than you....

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/mason-plumlee
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/isaiah-austin

And about Jenkins and your stupid argument, I will bring back another rookie numbers, look out even better than John Jenkins, I have a guy that posted 6,5 ppg, 1,5rpg, 1 apg on 0.400FG, Hey man!!! He should be the next Michael Jordan!!!! Which was his name??? Ah I remember, Dion Glover... go and check his great NBA career

[gurpilo]

You really nearly killed me man!!! That was really funny!!!

I will try to discuss it seriously, I believed in Teague since the first season, not because his 3,2 ppg, but because he really showed up on preseason and you could see that he had incredible tools for a NBA player, he was quick and went to the rim often, good ballhandling, his jumper was not very right... but you could see the talent there, his problem was he didn't have faith on himself... by the way you know wich player was he compared to on NBAdraft.net, that web page you think do not see prospects play, Kevin Johnson, personally I don't like the comparison it but is not so far... Anyway their description is so close to what he is today that make me wonder if they perhaps really know something about basketball...

In fact he was my last draft pick on that year's nba fantasy team, I failed miserably. Of course I wanted him to develop quickly, I did not want to see more Mike Bibby, he showed what I was seeing on the last game of that season, 27pts, 15 asist against Clev, his career high on assists till now.

About Jenkins, sorry but I don't see it, he is a good shooter, that is true, I really like his jumper, but doesn't know to create his shot, below average athlete, do not go to the rim, weak defense, could become a good role player, but he is not there yet, he is not a starter, please be serious...

[tcorbin]

Wow, not only are your comments wrong, but really bad as well. if you think Mason Plumlee is like Yi Yianlian, then it is clear that you have really bad scouting skills and a very low basketball IQ

it is very obvious that you never watched Plumlee if you think he is Yi, because their games are nothing alike, i just don't know were you got that comparison or if you are just making it up as you go along.

as for Isaiah Austin, him and Johnathan Bender have the same body type, but that is it. Austin is averaging 10 rebounds a game in college, and Johnathan Bender was a horrible rebounder.

your comparisons are so bad, it actually makes it not worth discussing with you

as for Jenkins, you could not be more wrong again. as a rookie Teague average 3.2ppg shooting .390FG, and Jenkins average 4.8ppg, and shooting .425FG. i guess you like Mike Woodson, didn't believe in Teague when he was a rookie and the Hawks should have given up on him like you want to give up on Jenkins. it makes me glad you're not the GM

Umm, really!! Don't discuss with me, don't kill the messenger, discuss with these guys that probably know nothing about NCAA players compared to your great knowledge, as we all know one of the most appreciated opinions on draf picks

By the way and for your information, perhaps you don't know them but they are supposed to be one of the most appreciated opinion and web pages on mock drafts, I'm sure they have seen Plumlee and Austin play more than you....

[url]http://www.nbadraft.net/players/mason-plumlee[/url]
[url]http://www.nbadraft.net/players/isaiah-austin[/url]

And about Jenkins and your stupid argument, I will bring back another rookie numbers, look out even better than John Jenkins, I have a guy that posted 6,5 ppg, 1,5rpg, 1 apg on 0.400FG, Hey man!!! He should be the next Michael Jordan!!!! Which was his name??? Ah I remember, Dion Glover... go and check his great NBA career

LOL! wow, now i know why your basketball IQ is so bad, its because you get all your information from a hack website like nbadraft.net and just plagiarize their material, that is just sad

nbadraft.net is the same website that said that:

Amare - Ben Wallace
Acie Law - Billups
Brandan Wright and Jordan Hill - Chris Bosh
Joe Alexander, Wesley Johnson, Tyrus Thomas - Shawn Marion
Eddy Curry - Shaq
Kwame Brown - KG
Joe Johnson - Magic Johnson
Yi Jianlian - Pau Gasol

DeShawn Stevenson - Michael Jordan
http://nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson

wow, you just lost your argument by revealing the source that you plagiarize from
its just pointless to discuss anything with you now, now that i know where you get your bad basketball info and that your analyzing skills is just copy and paste.

[gurpilo]

Half the comparisons you posted you just made it up, not appearing there, no comment needed...

You can call them and become the new guru if you know so much about NCAA player, but for the moment and knowing that you think Jenkins is already a starting SG, ummm I will keep reading them and draftexpress

It's just stupid to think that Plumlee can help us at center defending the post when everyone say he is a weak defender and do not have the needed strength, you can see that seeing him play.